Fadal is back on top!!! NOW WITH PICS!!

[carbidecraters]

The new Fadal's come with a Fanuc control and Fanuc motors!!

One mold made the same time on a Kitamura and a Fadal took the same amount of time and measured out the same!! Price difference...about $110K


Awesome!!

WOW

[Scott_bob]

That is debatable!

Why did Fadal have to give up "the one thing that they developed" to actually compete with the Fanuc controlled CNC machines out there?

Why did the Fanuc control have to be chosen, in order to get back on "the top of your list"?

Is a low purchase price the most important factor to get "on top"?

Do you have one of these Fadal CNC machines with a Fanuc control?

[carbidecraters]

Well we all know why they had to switch controllers...the latest controller was horrid and had tons of revisions and was rushed out the door. The story goes like this.

Fadal was having MAJOR headaches with their controller and asked Fanuc to bail them out. Fanuc sent a team of their best to California to help setup the controller. Fadal also (I cant tell when) switched to the japanese tool chager and changes tools just like the high buck competitors. Their controller couldnt compete so they joined them.....LOL.

Off topic the funniest thing I heard over the Fadal Haas debate was Fadals are made on Fadals and Hass's are made on mori's.....

I am not affiliated with Fadal at all....just a very happy customer

[Scott_bob]

Originally Posted by carbidecraters I am not affiliated with Fadal at all....just a very happy customer

Do you have a new Fadal?
Which control?

[carbidecraters]

4020 FANUC!!!! All FANUC!!!!

[WOLOG]

Fadals make great boat anchors. I would put my Haas against one any day.

[carbidecraters]

Haas has a nice control but it cant compare to the new versions of fanuc...

I would love to hear how your Haas would eat any fadal... thats not a very intelligent statement. ....almost matches my Fadal is back on top statement . I would be willing to bet that in two years the Fadal lineup will be more popular than the Haas. Most salesmen of the high end machines will call the Fadal and Haas the "throw away" machine center even though they make up 85% of the market. The big difference now between higher end japanese VMC's and Fadals are

1. american castings
2. coolant and oiling systems


Thats it now that they use the ultra quick japanese rotary style tool changers and the fanuc motors and controllers. In the realm of medium duty machining its hard to beat the japanese company fanuc for their motors and controller systems...in fact I dont think anyone has come close except Mazak

[Al_The_Man]

Originally Posted by carbidecraters ...in fact I dont think anyone has come close except Mazak

Mazak is/was mainly Mitsubishi, with The odd Fanuc.
Al.

[carbidecraters]

You mean the mazatrol....I think that is the closest competitor for the fanuc. I have seen some good conversational and some horrid conversational controls

[psychomill]

You mean the mazatrol....I think that is the closest competitor for the fanuc

Mazatrol is the brand name for Mazak controllers. Components are Mitsubishi. Al is correct.

[dmealer]

Hello guys,
I can't help but want to get in on this debate.
I am at a interesting position at my job. I am in charge of 3 machines. A Mazak FJV , A Fadal, and a Mori Seiki. I have also spent consideable time on a haas. Each machine has it's good and bad. The haas is a good all around light machining center. The Fadal has one of the easier controls I have used. But it like the haas, has to little a*s behind it and the tool changers are painfully slow, especially the Fadal. Our Mazak's control is pretty easy, and the one thing no other machine tool can touch, is the PROBE. You can just about throw your indicator away. I guess it's not fair to put the Mori in this debate, the Fanuc controll is relitivly easy. It has a learning cure, but not to much. But if you need your machine to squat and take a cut, with a chip to chip tool change time as fast as lightning, you can't beat the Mori.

Dalen

[carbidecraters]

Soo true on the mori....now that fadal has the mori style tool changer and the fanuc it is pretty bad ass... They needed to get away from that carousel