Excitech Cnc Router Purchase

[KustomKoncepts]

How le moly that is bigger and half of what I will have into a shop sabre. I this a servo or stepper cnc?

[KustomKoncepts]

any one know why I can't look at what else he has sold. they are all blocked. I want to see if he has sold any other cnc machines. he has 116 positive feed backs but don't really trust e-bay.

[cabnet636]

i have asked them (via ebay) to call me but it was late in the day and i have yet to hear from them. i have been researching this level of cnc for a while.
i can say i am highly impressed with shop sabre and techno. as a cabinetmaker i am looking for the ability to have a slave drill z axis on board with the main z axis as we need to machine shelf pin holes then cut parts
i don't mind changing bits for carving. i gotta tell you shop bot has well figured
this out. digirout has a unit that has an extended x axis over the table and can put two z's next to each other. i am working to find the right machine
and i am sure that will happen soon. i will speak well of xfactory i have bought large equipment from them and was very satisfied with how thier process worked.

so lets do this heres my specs
5x 96 or 4x8 clear cutting area (my only true 5' material is 5x5 baltic and i can work around this.
fast, strong cut mdf and melamine at 6-8" per second plus
parts (steppers/servos) mostly non proprietary for easy replacement
gantry that can handle slave z axis in line (not side by side)
digitizer probe and related software
cad cam software

i can or will provide new laptop and vaccum and dust collection
(i got enough Dells)

what do you guys know that i havent seen yet.

cabnet

[KustomKoncepts]

Ok Help me out here.

Item that is on ebay
Item number: 130173463389
posted by cabnet

is the salesman named Keith I got him to call me today but missed the call this was the guy that I contacted through ebay. He said he worked for Travel Marketing, right that sounds like a Holding company. has any one else bought from these guys? are parts and service easy to get, how about bits and other things that it will break? if this is a holding company how reliable and knolegable are they?

I am open to this guy and the sh-cnc because it looks like I can get way more for less machine for less than some of the us built machines.

but rocket67 you say that this item on ebay is not the sh-cnc that you have and got for 16k.

are these two different companies or different machines. I can't seem to get this straight. I will call this Keith tomorrow and hopfully get it straight.

[cabnet636]

it is my impression that the ebay model and the camwood are of the same
manufacturer, whether they are of the same specs remains to be seen.
also whether or not they are cousin to the shcnc/excitech i really am not
even remotely qualified to say

cabnet

[KustomKoncepts]

I am kinda seeing it now. Yes I am very leary of the ebay outfit. they definatly sound like a middle man. They could be here today gone tomorrow. I went to sh-cnc and sent a e-mail. I just wonder how easy is it to get this machine into the US and how are parts to get? I will e-mail this taney also. I also am kinda nervious to buy a machine direct from china how safe is that also. I like the us companies because I could drive there andfind them if needed.

[KustomKoncepts]

well I know that almost everything or atleast components all start in china in some way or another. I have sent a e-mail to this sh-cnc and I will see what they can do for me. I have only been looking for 2 months now and have changed my mind 20 times. I went from a Multicam, techno, shop bot, shop sabre, plasma route, tourchmate, ect. now I have just been turned around again by this fourm about these other china direct machines. I can say for what I was going to get with sabre a 3.5 hp spindle 4x8 table (no t-slot or wood top) servos dust skirt was pushing 24 thousand and I seem to be able to get that same or equal features for about $12,000. lets do the math it will take half as long and half as much to pay off 12k vs 24k. I hope to make contact with them tomorrow. I have the loan approved and all I just am starting to change my mind again.

I want to start a new thread to see who is using that e-bay machine.

[cabnet636]

i saw an article on the manufacturing of woodworking machines in fine woodworking magazine where it was found that basically all machines are built in a few plants and the quality is determined by the supplier in the us and what they require for specifications for thier respective customers.
it was found that all 15" planers with the exception of one in canada
where being proccessed at one plant and further provided photographs
of an assembly line where planers were shown in there respective marketing colors side by side.
we've known for many years that all vcrs were manufactured in just a few plants in tiawan. recently i provided the front desk and lobby display walls
for the China Construction Company here in the southeast and yes they are owned by the peoples republic of china. dude they are now here building your high schools. (Nice people to work for, paid well and extremely proffessional) and i can assure you that while operating in a democratic and capitalistic environment the are all owned by The Peoples Republic of China

after comparing the sh-cnc (excitech), camwood 1325 and the yet to be named ebay model we have seen in this thread. We are looking at extremely inbred cousins if not sisters and brothers.

that said, i am not afraid of the quality of any of them. like kustom concepts
i also have been down the road and am within a day of purchase. i have german edgebanders and italian saws, the germans demand such quality even at there public level that wal-mart has floundered there! personally my most basic requirement of a machine at this level is that i can get parts and fix it myself. i believe the chinese machines can fit that. with shopbot just two hours up the road and fitting all of my needs it is easy to see why i amd leaning that way.

rocket i am sure you have picked the right machine i look forward to seeing where you, kustom and i go with our machines keep this thread going

cabnet
www.mcgrewwoodwork.com

[KustomKoncepts]

well I did make contact with the e-bay outfit today. I did get to talk to this Keith at a (603) area code is for new hampshire.

everything seems good I got quoted for a dule drive 5x10 with 6HP spindle Vcarve, dust collection, freight, mach interface, starter bit set, 10 hp vacume table all for $14,911.00

it all sounds to good to be true. they say they are the engineers that designed it and it is assembled in china then shipped here.

now the web site is www.tribalmarketinggroup.com

but it is just a home page and all the links are dead on it. when I call the number it seems to ring to a cell phone.


all this for 15 thousand seems good and all but I am not sold on what is really going on here. something seems out of place. there isn't even a name for this machine.

this could even just be a home based business. when I went to sh-cnc I could see it was a real company with employees. I really want someone else to speak up here about this cnc but it seems there is just one person on here who has one. I have got pm's from a member who says this machine is ok but I am leary yet. later

[KustomKoncepts]

yeah screw that e-bay guy all his stuff looks like a scam. there is only one person who has this machine and I would not be suprised to say it is the same guy that is trying to scam people of e-bay. I just go the price list form sh and will review it.

what size and options did you go for rocket67?

[KustomKoncepts]

WOW I can't belive that the SHMS1224D bad boy is only $42,378 a machine like that if it was american made would be over $250,000.

[KustomKoncepts]

I am going with the SHM1530A and the chinese vacume table and pump with dust collector, Mist cooling system and tool sensor. I figure all that will be about $18,000 and even if it takes $2,000 to get it here I am going to get a whole lot more machine for $4,000 LESS than a shop sabre outfit.

what do you think is the difference in the Becker vacum VS the chinese vacum other than $1,500 less for the chinese one?

actually the chinese is 140CBM vs beckers 129CBM



I know that fourms are very hard to guage when asking what is the best machine to buy. You get comflicted answers. Fourms are better for questions once you get the machine. If some one asked what the best Airbrush is I'd say Iwata and the best vinyl printers and plotters I'd say Roland because those are what I own so everyone on here likes what they have bought themselfs. I am very convinced that SH-cnc is a straight company just watch the video on the home page there must be 300 people working there. I still really like that SHMS1224D for $42,000 but it is only a 4x8 and I am starting to look at the 5x10 so i can cut aluminum race car tin .04 alum for race car panels for local builders.

To the ausies do you fallow the World of Outlaws sprint car races. I don't know if that is what they are called there but Donny Schatz, Natalie Sather and one other guy from Fargo, ND (my town) race that circit in the US summer than are in Australia now racing then they are back to the us to race the summer seris again. we also had a group of guys that were custom combiners that used to come here from Australia every summer to custom combine the mid west Wheat.

well talk to you later I want to know what size and options you two got on your excite cnc's
se ya