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Old 08-19-2006, 11:05 AM
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The Energy HOLY GRAIL has been Discovered! (I hope...wow!)

I wasn't sure where to put this but its FACINATING. My scanner ain't working so I hope you can read it. All I can say is WOWOWOWOW. I hope this is verified. It'll change the world. Watch this space!...and oh yeah....watch their movie on the site aswell. WOW!

http://www.steorn.net/en/technology.aspx?p=5

Edit: Wow!

Edit2: I don't know why this wasn't on the front page???

Edit3: The article is from the Irish Independant. NOT some crazy tabloid or weird paper. It was published Fri 18th Aug 2006.
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Old 08-19-2006, 11:36 AM
 
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Clearly the Irish, or at least some of them, still believe in leprechauns and pots of gold at ends of rainbows.
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Old 08-19-2006, 11:49 AM
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lol. I hope your wrong Geof! Once upon a time the world was flat. Not "oh it might be flat", "It IS flat and it is the center of the universe". Mankind has always had to change their own laws every few centuries as new discoveries were made. Look at quantum physics and quantum theory, a lot of it contradicts the 'laws of physics' as we know them today. Im almost giddy at the thought of this.....just imagine if it works.....wow...

PS: I emailed them to register to get all test results. I'll keep this thread updated if they keep me updated!
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Suprisingly (or not) lacking in details,

My guess is the leprichaun needs to quit making scientific "therory" while sitting on his pot of gold and get up then Flush and go do some work!

Probably a pipe dream (most likely where they came up with this stuff) but One can hope.
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Old 08-19-2006, 12:12 PM
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I'll take a bucketload please
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A long time ago I was a research associate in a university Physics Department working with a very clever fellow. He made a comment once about people who invent perpetual motion machines: "There are two types: The ones who sincerely believe they are onto something but their machine is only 60% efficient. They figure if they go and consult with a Physicist who knows more than twice what they know and is more than twice as clever then they can easily double their efficiency. The second type is the shyster who knows all the jargon to delude gullible journalists and investors. Their favorite phrase is 'you cannot prove it will not work' from which they imply the corollary that it will work.

Honest; TANSTAAFL is true.
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From the Steorn forum page. This ones for Geof!

"CommentAuthor: MrGrynch
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You can 'prove' many times over that a thing is true, but it will only take one thing to prove it is not. What you are referring to is not proof, but merely agreement with a prediction. It appears to be a law since it has never been observed to be other than predicted, but that is not an indication that we are correct under all circumstances.

Theory cannot render observation invalid. Instead you should be endeavouring to find a way to fit these observations into theory. If there is an apprent violation, then our understanding is what is flawed.

I can make no claims of the Steorn device, but I know for a fact at least one such device does exist and has been independently verified. A large scale correction to current electrical theory is presented by the inventor of this device. Please look into Dr. Tom Bearden."
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Also interesting, just looked this up.
http://www.cheniere.org/
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Even if the thing did work (highly doubt it)
Nothing is FREE, they will just charge two arms, two legs and a torso for the device.

What I like is a few of my nieghbors think they are on to something when they try putting a hydrogen generator on their cars to make hydrogen that they put into the airstream of the engine because it will increase fuel milage. When you try to tell them that it took energy to make the hydrogen and that the increase in fuel milage (if any)won't make up for the alternator having to run harder, it just goes over their head because they must be right.

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Thats true JP and I do agree Geof TANSTAAFL. But 'IF' this works (Whatever 'this' is because no they dont go into much detail) it wont have to cost an arm and a leg because the demand will make the inventors overnight trillionaires anyway at a low price. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see....but I for one am keeping my fingers crossed.
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.....You can 'prove' many times over that a thing is true....etc...etc...
Do I need to repeat myself? I will anyway; "The second type is the shyster who knows all the jargon to delude gullible journalists and investors."

Back in the early 1980s not long after the first 'energy crisis' this type of thing bubbled to the surface frequently. For a period of time there were abundant tax credits for companies developing all manner of things. I had firsthand experience with the second type I refer to in the quote above. I had founded a company making prototypes and scientific equipment and was well know in the local scientific/engineering community. Twice I was approached by entrepreneurs and inventors who had something that sounded plausible but scientifically was a bunch of nonsense. They wanted to get me involved as a director and receive shares in a company they were floating on the stock market. I asked one group why they approached me because they must surely have known I would tell them their invention was worthless. Their response was; 'yes but you will give it scientific credibility' and can sell your shares when we go public. I am not a shyster so I never took up any offers.
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