Proper Disposal Of Used Coolant? I Have Bumb Qestions

[mactec54]

fizzisisit
then why does it come unglued when it goes down the drain? I know there's stuff in my drains that I hope isn't in my sumps....

There is one thing that is in your drain more than anything else plain old ( WATER ) when it is in your machine you have or should maintain it at around 20-1 as you go to higher water content you will see it start to break down after 50-1 you will get rusting just as you will with any cutting fluid they need to be maintained at the correct mix ratio

So the anwser is it breaks down with water I told you it was simple.

Geof
I don't think water is hogwash, bunkum, codswallop, it may be in your shop with all that oil base coolant polluting the air that your workers breath every day,for someone that has not used GreenCut, you seem to know more about it than the chemist that invented it

The health benefits alone make it a better choice than any other cutting fluids with there Carcinogenic compounds that you all keep breathing in at your work, & if it's at your home workshop your whole family is exposed to it !!!!!

[fizzissist]

fizzisisit
then why does it come unglued when it goes down the drain? I know there's stuff in my drains that I hope isn't in my sumps....

There is one thing that is in your drain more than anything else plain old ( WATER ) when it is in your machine you have or should maintain it at around 20-1 as you go to higher water content you will see it start to break down after 50-1 you will get rusting just as you will with any cutting fluid they need to be maintained at the correct mix ratio

So the anwser is it breaks down with water I told you it was simple.

So, it's the ratio that breaks it down? Isn't that what you're saying? I thought it was some complex chemical process, but as you say, it is simple.

As the ratio transitions from 20:1 to 50:1, it breaks down, and then when the ratio becomes 2000:1, or 10,000:1 it breaks down even further. When it finally gets down to say, 1,000,000:1 it's REALLY broken down and it's only 1ppm!!!

Don't get much simpler than that!!

.......but I'm wondering...and I know this might be proprietary....do the water molecules go back to their original size? I'm scared that there might be mutant water molecules floating around unsupervised.

[mactec54]

Hi fizzisisit

You would have to ask the chemist at GreenCut to answer that one, I love the way you use your words/wording it's quite funny,very intelligent!

[Geof]

f...Geof
I don't think water is hogwash, bunkum, codswallop, it may be in your shop with all that oil base coolant polluting the air that your workers breath every day,for someone that has not used GreenCut, you seem to know more about it than the chemist that invented it.....

This statement is utter hogwash, etc.

this by utilising its covalent ionic bond matrix, which also contains chemistry to reduce the molecular size of the water droplets..."...

It does use chemical nomenclature, coveaent bonds do exist, ionic bonds do exist, water molecules do exist, but chemistry that can alter the size of water molcules does not exist and covalent bonds and ionic bonds are very different in properties.

I am sorry to dissappoint you about poisoning my workers, we have mist extraction on all our machines.

And I quite likely do know as much, if not more chemistry, than the chemist who invented Greencut; I have one of those fancy bits of paper in my office, all framed and everything, that says I earned a doctorate degree in chemistry back in 1978.

Find yourself a chemist who does not have any vested interest in Greencut and get that person to give you an opinion of the claims on the Greencut website.

[mactec54]

Geof
I am sorry to dissappoint you about poisoning my workers, we have mist extraction on all our machines.

You don't get it all out of the air that they are breathing, & the Cost to do this is quite high, the maintenance on the extraction units & the wasted energy to drive the units
And the disposal of your used coolant the cost is high.

So you can see the benefit of GreeCut you don't need any of these things

There has been other independent chemists who have tested this product

My wife has a PHD plus a lot more as well & was a Professor teaching students like yourself what university did you graduate from.

[fizzissist]

This statement is utter hogwash, etc.

this by utilising its covalent ionic bond matrix, which also contains chemistry to reduce the molecular size of the water droplets..."...

It does use chemical nomenclature, coveaent bonds do exist, ionic bonds do exist, water molecules do exist, but chemistry that can alter the size of water molcules does not exist and covalent bonds and ionic bonds are very different in properties.

I am sorry to dissappoint you about poisoning my workers, we have mist extraction on all our machines.

And I quite likely do know as much, if not more chemistry, than the chemist who invented Greencut; I have one of those fancy bits of paper in my office, all framed and everything, that says I earned a doctorate degree in chemistry back in 1978.

Find yourself a chemist who does not have any vested interest in Greencut and get that person to give you an opinion of the claims on the Greencut website.

Well, Geof, it looks like GreenCut is Turbo-Nano-Gourmet-Green after all. I'm satisfied with all the answers so far, and I'm going to switch over all my machines tomorrow. Doing a search for the product and reviews have resulted in several hits in Google, the definitive measure of success of any product. (you must have at least 3 hits to qualify)

Looks like your education is even trumped, and mactec54's wife could have been your thesis advisor!!

Can't wait for summer, when that lemony fresh smell permeates the shop, and I can breathe a sigh of relief, knowing that the blender I'm using to make martinis after (or now, during!!) work won't rust and is properly lubricated.

Lemon Drop Martini

1 1/2 ounces vodka
1/2 ounce orange liqueur (Triple Sec, Grand Marnier, Cointreau, etc.)
1 teaspoon superfine sugar*
3/4 ounce freshly-squeezed lemon juice
dash of GreenCut
Ice cubes
Superfine sugar for dipping
Twisted peel of lemon

Mix the vodka, orange liqueur, sugar, and lemon juice in a cocktail shaker half-filled with ice; shake well (supposedly the cocktail is to be shaken 40 times to make sure the sugar is well blended). If using a blender, add GreenCut first to inhibit rust and ensure perfect emsulsification.

Pour strained liquor into sugar-rimmed martini glass and garnish with a twisted peel of lemon.

See your local dealer for GreenCut martini glasses.

[mactec54]

Hi fizzissist
Don't have to many of those Green Martinis & have a great thanksgiving