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Old 11-08-2007, 08:06 PM
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Weather Channel Founder: Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

By John Coleman - Founder of the Weather Channel

"It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create an allusion of rapid global warming. Other scientists of the same environmental whacko type jumped into the circle to support and broaden the “research” to further enhance the totally slanted, bogus global warming claims. Their friends in government steered huge research grants their way to keep the movement going. Soon they claimed to be a consensus.

Environmental extremists, notable politicians among them, then teamed up with movie, media and other liberal, environmentalist journalists to create this wild “scientific” scenario of the civilization threatening environmental consequences from Global Warming unless we adhere to their radical agenda. Now their ridiculous manipulated science has been accepted as fact and become a cornerstone issue for CNN, CBS, NBC, the Democratic Political Party, the Governor of California, school teachers and, in many cases, well informed but very gullible environmentally conscientious citizens. Only one reporter at ABC has been allowed to counter the Global Warming frenzy with one 15 minute documentary segment.

I do not oppose environmentalism. I do not oppose the political positions of either party. However, Global Warming, i.e. Climate Change, is not about environmentalism or politics. It is not a religion. It is not something you “believe in.” It is science; the science of meteorology. This is my field of life-long expertise. And I am telling you Global Warming is a non-event, a manufactured crisis and a total scam. I say this knowing you probably won’t believe a me, a mere TV weatherman, challenging a Nobel Prize, Academy Award and Emmy Award winning former Vice President of United States. So be it.

I have read dozens of scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct. There is no run away climate change. The impact of humans on climate is not catastrophic. Our planet is not in peril. I am incensed by the incredible media glamour, the politically correct silliness and rude dismissal of counter arguments by the high priest of Global Warming.

In time, a decade or two, the outrageous scam will be obvious. As the temperature rises, polar ice cap melting, coastal flooding and super storm pattern all fail to occur as predicted everyone will come to realize we have been duped. The sky is not falling. And, natural cycles and drifts in climate are as much if not more responsible for any climate changes underway. I strongly believe that the next twenty years are equally as likely to see a cooling trend as they are to see a warming trend."

From: http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-b...lobal_warming/
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Dear dynosor,

I think that we might consider a previous "potential disaster" that the politicians and their ( highly paid) advisors came up with.

The Millennium Bug.

This was to be a cause of "Global Melt-down", but I believe that a single internal flight in Nigeria was delayed by twenty minutes or so.

Alas, there are much bigger and pinker snouts in a much deeper trough when it comes to "climate change".

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yeah.. wealthy tv channel founders know it all about everything, just ask them, or let them tell you.. also make them tell you what companies they have invested their millions into, and then you may see some of their political thinking's bedrock.

based on the weather channel's business model, this man is basically wrong 50% of the time, and has no problem with it. it is just like shamanic divining - you are going to be right 50% of the time. therefor some women can tell an unborn child's sex 50% of the time.. pretty damn impressive, if you are an ignorant tribesman and dont know about coins and their 2 sides.
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by vacpress View Post
Based on the weather channel's business model, this man is basically wrong 50% of the time, and has no problem with it.

Interesting point. So if we don't have the technology to predict tomorrow's weather with any accuracy, what makes Al Gore et al think they can predict the weather 100 years from now?
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Dude... these are ad-hominem attacks... you don't attack ideas, you attack the person...
Martin, Maybe... the millenium bug was avoided because of the communication and preparation... an example a little more thought out would be to talk about the global cooling that was supposed to freeze us all to death in the eighties... how did they manage to make a 180 on this while keeping a straight face is beyond my understanding...
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coins and their 2 sides
Your data are incorrect: Theoreticaly, it is possible for a coin to land on its edge

I propose to validate this theory by flipping loads of coins. Initial risk assessment studies indicate the possibility of RSI (repetitive strain injury) (1) so I propose a CNC controlled flipper with machine vision. External influences shall be minimised by the construction of a temperature controlled concrete bunker 100m down into the southern ice cap (2)(3). Independent adjudicators shall monitor the facility on- site, whilst all with direct interest in the results (ie me) shall monitor the results from off site, in the Bahamas, via satelite link.

I need a grant for further research please.

References:
(1) Phil McCrackin: 10 times Tiddly Wink champion and author of "My wrist aches".
(2) Luscious Linda: Director of "Solo Ladies" and co- author of "The effects of vibration from a personal perspective".
(3) A Polar Bear: [translation] "It's bloody cold down here, have you seen any seals?".
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Originally Posted by GdeColigny View Post
Martin, Maybe... the millenium bug was avoided because of the communication and preparation......
Dear GdeColigny,

Maybe... or maybe the potential "problem" was somewhat overstated...

Here is an article written a few days after the dreaded bug should have struck.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Ar...947148,00.html

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I think we should all adopt a polar bear, bring them home and feed them Islamic extremists! Kill two birds with one stone!
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Originally Posted by ImanCarrot View Post
Your data are incorrect: Theoreticaly, it is possible for a coin to land on its edge

I propose to validate this theory by flipping loads of coins. Initial risk assessment studies indicate the possibility of RSI (repetitive strain injury) (1) so I propose a CNC controlled flipper with machine vision. External influences shall be minimised by the construction of a temperature controlled concrete bunker 100m down into the southern ice cap (2)(3). Independent adjudicators shall monitor the facility on- site, whilst all with direct interest in the results (ie me) shall monitor the results from off site, in the Bahamas, via satelite link.

I need a grant for further research please.

References:
(1) Phil McCrackin: 10 times Tiddly Wink champion and author of "My wrist aches".
(2) Luscious Linda: Director of "Solo Ladies" and co- author of "The effects of vibration from a personal perspective".
(3) A Polar Bear: [translation] "It's bloody cold down here, have you seen any seals?".
iman!

i love your idea! finally, something that can be proven!

i wasnt attacking the man. i was attacking the idea. in my oppinion wealthy tv founders should not be allowed to weigh in on scientific controversy, especially if they dont state their major investments.. people with huge abounts of money and no responsibility to the public should not be trusted, y kno? so really. i was attacking the very idea that this man's oppinion matters. i dont know the man, and i dont think i care wht he thinks of global warmings validity.. if he drives a car that gets less mpg than a model t(15pgish) then he is quite possibly lashing out over personal feelings of guilt.

personaly the idea that there are natural warming and cooling trends beyond human intervention is pretty obvious. only those who completely tuned out of high-school science are going to be incredulous enough to believe the oceans will envelope us in 20 year. that is absurd.. but still., that dosent mean that anything this man said was more than un-invited political rhetoric. i would bet all my pennies this man has political interests or economic interests that predispose him to one way of thinking.. ie 'let capitalists do what they want'

remember, just because someone takes a position, that dosent mean he has stated his real concerns. he sounds like a crank to me. who the hell does he think he is? oooooh... the founder of weather channel.. next we will care what founder of fox news personally thinks about war(s). (somehow i bet he is sort of into war and can see how soetimes war is a good thing)

that is the subtext here, isnt it?
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I think we should all adopt a polar bear, bring them home and feed them Islamic extremists! Kill two birds with one stone!
i like the begining of this idea. i adore the society of polar bears and other large arctic mammals. however, may i propose you invite the islamists over for tea and a nice chat.. the polar bear could moderate.
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Interesting point. So if we don't have the technology to predict tomorrow's weather with any accuracy, what makes Al Gore et al think they can predict the weather 100 years from now?
good question eh... what makes people think using these patroleum products is even remotely moral when they apparently lead to war and certain(though scale is unknown) environmental damage? people with money often seem to confuse their revenue source for repetitiousness. goes back to the old religious idea that rich people are the 'chosen ones' and that their comparative wealth is a 'sign'. i reject this idea.

my argument for al gore has been and continues to be 'if people dont take these dramatic stances, then the power of money will squash our chances to stop breathing so much poison at the massive-profit of everyone but us' (and apparently a few oil-loving curmudgeons with lots of money invested in our current and apparenly unsustainable oil consumption). apparently it is a fine idea to think that if i burn leaves i will get in trouble because there are alternative methods to get rid of leaves that are not dangerous and polluting, but comed owners are the god-granted chosen ones who can pollute all they want, then lie and cheat their customers, and still get their massive corporate bonuses and de-facto monopoly status.


i am done with this topic again, unless it involves tea parties and polar bears.. i also want some aurora borealis on the horizon.
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well i know what i'm gonna do to combat climate change

i'm gonna give the g'ment all of my earnings for the next 30 yrs cos they say this'll help stop it .....baaaaa..baaaaa
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