Climate Change.......Phoey!!!

[dang]

By the by, a little factoid on the actual effect of climate change is that the extinction rate of ALL species, plant and animal is currently 1000 times what it has been during the last century.
They're at this moment growing wine grapes in western Canada because the climate has CHANGED to allow them to do so.
Recent reports state that fish are dying in record numbers due to carbon levels in the oceans.
Coral is being bleached at rates never before measured by mankind, which is in turn making coral uninhabitable for sea life.
The proof is all around you, it's our fault. No amount of disagreement can change this unassailable FACT.

[David_Web]

Climate change is real!
Can you honestly say that the air in every major city is clean?
Can you honestly say that lakes and rivers is not getting affected by fertilizer?
Can you honestly say that light poisoning has no affect on any part of nature?
No creatures are getting extinct because of us right?

Just because "global warming" happens naturally does not mean that we change the nature in any way. And if you change nature you change climate.
It is known that the heat of a city has changed the climate locally so thunder strikes there more often. Can't remember the city though.

Or does the polar icecaps have to melt before you call it a change?

And even tho I think global warming is a pos it have forced people to evolve technology forward and give us more efficient equipment.

On the flip side a lot of crap has come out of it. And I have a lot not so nice things to say about it but I won't. Instead I choose to make the best of it. Or maybe not. I usually 'politely disagree' about it. Not healthy I know but I can't help it.

BTW one thing I find funny. When they could no longer prove that there was a "global warming" that where caused by humans they suddenly started calling is "climate change".

BTW2 I don't expect half of what I'm saying to come out right or even understood. I just can't justify writing any more into a reply that won't make a difference. Not on global scale or on a smaller level. And convincing people that I'm right wont do a lot ether. Especially when people don't even know what they debate about. And people debating won't go anywhere ether. So in the end I wright this only for myself. Which was stupid on itself as it did not cheer me up. Only made me tired. Maybe I should set up a blog writing up useless posts. But then again no one would care. Thus back at square one. Maybe I should stop now and do something better with my time. It's not like I will get any of it back at this point though. All in all have I wasted valuable energy writing a post that server no purpose. Man I feel cheated.
Have a nice day!
Yep, that kind word to all of you probably justified the energy this post took to wright. However did it justify the energy to reed it?
Well I hope you got a warm feeling inside as that would help out a little bit on the heating bill.
And maybe the friction when you had to scroll through it.
Maybe I should have thrown this post away but that would have been even more wasteful. Or maybe not. Anyway now we will never know.

[dertsap]

, just because something is labeled a theory, doesn't mean that it's wrong, only incomplete. ALL legitimate science agrees that global warming is happening .

if its labeled a theory it means it has not been prooven , its an idea ,
who decided that legit scientists agree with global warming when so many scientists have turned their backs to it

reguardless of what people beleave Canada does not and has not been in snow and ice 12 months of the year since the ice age , the climate here allows for a number of fruits and vegetables to be harvested and its not due to the new global warming because we've been harvesting well before global warming

people are getting pollution confused with global warming is there fertilizer in the water , yes , is there and always will be pcb's in every living thing yes , does that contribute to global warming , i doubt it

[dang]

who decided that legit scientists agree with global warming when so many scientists have turned their backs to it

Please name one legitimate group of scientists who have turned their backs on climate change research.

Also, it's called spellcheck, you should look into that.

And, I'm not talking about growing strawberries or some other generic sort of fruit. I'm talking about Wine grapes which are notoriously difficult to grow and were impossible, until recently to grow in Canada's climate.

Speaking of turning backs, I'm done with this thread. A theory isn't merely an idea. It's an idea shared by enough scientists that it's valuable enough to pursue as their lives (plural) work.

[Geof]

.....I'm talking about Wine grapes which are notoriously difficult to grow and were impossible, until recently to grow in Canada's climate....

How recent is recent? Last five years, ten, twenty, fifty?

[dang]

How recent is recent? Last five years, ten, twenty, fifty?

The turnover from "normal" crop growth to growing these "Wine Grapes" which have only previously grown in The Mediterranean, Southern Californian, and Southern French climates, has happened during the last TWO years.

These are the same two years where arctic ice melt has hit records. Where it's been reported that enough C02 has been deposited in the oceans to heat them by two degrees F. Imagine for a second how much energy it would take to heat all the salt water on earth by two degrees F. The World is by the way, made up of 2/3 water. That's alotta heat. Now realize that this amount of energy is dwarfed compared to the Methane output of our Factory Farming system for livestock. Livestock Farms put out more heated energy than every car, coal mine and factory stove pipe on earth combined.

Now anyone wanna talk about how like The Sikhs are killing all those Israelis over in Sri Lanka? That effects us to ya know.

[Geof]

The turnover from "normal" crop growth to growing these "Wine Grapes" which have only previously grown in The Mediterranean, Southern Californian, and Southern French climates, has happened during the last TWO years...

Don't be silly. The wine industry in the Niagara region of Southern Ontario is at least 40 years old and in British Columbia around the same.

Still I gues the rest of your post is equally silly.

[dang]

My proof regarding my earlier wine statement.

http://deadgrapes.wordpress.com/2007...ext-big-thing/

It's funny how I'm the only one providing any substantive content in my posts, when others are only providing anecdotal denials of the massive amount of evidence which backs up the "theory" of climate change. Such is the nature and classic symptom of denial.

[Geof]

My proof regarding my earlier wine statement.

http://deadgrapes.wordpress.com/2007...ext-big-thing/

It's funny how I'm the only one providing any substantive content in my posts, when others are only providing anecdotal denials of the massive amount of evidence which backs up the "theory" of climate change. Such is the nature and classic symptom of denial.

I give up . Anyone who takes a media reporter seriously, even if it is the Wall Street Journal, is not worth arguing with.

[dertsap]

Also, it's called spellcheck, you should look into that.

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in a simple conversation i dont see a point in being anal about my spelling or anyone elses

as far as scientists spending their lifes work on the subject thats their job .thats what they do , search into the great unknown
they had best come up with solid proof or they will be out of a job and their lifes work will have been in vain ,worthhless !

maybe you can tell us Canadians more about our new found harvests
ice wine had been developed over years of us planting our grapes in snow banks , its nice to actually plant them in thawed dirt for a change

[dang]

Read the article I linked to in my last post. It says that Canadian wine has been considered a joke up until very recently when climate change allowed a decent breed of grape to be harvested.
Also, the news is meant to be taken seriously. How else would a person get information? So don't say you won't argue with me because I'm informed. Tell it like it is and say you can't argue with me because you are willfully uninformed, or in more precise terms, ignorant.

[dang]

its nice to actually plant them in thawed dirt for a change

Yeah, because climate change is a good thing, and something you just admitted to being fully aware of. How does it feel to be behind the extinction of your own species in favor of not having to travel south for winter?

Some Dems occasionally watch Fox News and take away lessons in debate ya know.