Global Warming Poll

[fizzissist]

"Meanwhile back at the ranch in OZ, you know little OZ, the lucky Country....OK you flunked geography in kinder, well anyway..."

OZ. The lucky Country. Little OZ. Flying monkeys, munchkins, Witches, talking scarecrows.. OH! The OTHER OZ.

Sorry, I didn't flunk geography in high school or college (it wasn't offered in 'kinder'), I knew the difference between the continent and the fictional land written about by L. Frank. (a wonderful writer....the J.K. of his day).

How ironic though, that the exchanges here suggest some striking parallels between both the real and the imaginary OZ's.... Colonel Wanker, from the Army of Oogaboo, seems to post here on a regular basis expounding upon the merits of his "lucky country", while the real OZ votes itself into financial oblivion and passes laws against saying anything about it.

I guess if you're really that stupid, it makes perfect sense to vilify a successful country to make yourself appear better.

Better keep them guns buried, Wankie....you'll shoot your eye out.

[handlewanker]

Sorry Infantry, to dissolusion you, the "living in mud huts" might very well be a way of life for you one day....lots of people in the Third World do it as a way of life because they don't have the means to produce the goods for export cheap enough that anybody else wants...except raw materials, but they have to buy the stuff back once their raw materials have been processed to make more interesting bits of junk they don't need but are encouraged to want.

Your best bet would be to go out into the country and buy up 3 acres or so and get your hands dirty, plant a few vegies and live on the land, generate your own electricity and pump water while you still can....oh and you might want to learn how to build a mud hut as well....LOL.....nothing like being self sufficient.

If'n you want a few tips, look up Mike Reynolds and Earth Ship to see how it's done.
Ian.

[infantry11b]

you really need to read more. There is not a place on the earth, where people live in abject poverty, that don't have the natural resources to live as well as in the most industrialized nations on the earth. what they do have that is common to all countries in poverty is a strong centralized government which controls almost every facit of the lives of the people, where all the assets that are located go into the treasury of the central government, and end up in the pockets of the central government.
and what do all these countries have in common, in addition to the aforementioned? a lack of capitalism, and no individual accountability or responsibility.
want to end poverty - allow capitalism to spread without limitation by governments, except to prevent actual theft, or individual control of a market, which in itself, limits true capitalism.

Originally Posted by handlewanker Sorry Infantry, to dissolusion you, the "living in mud huts" might very well be a way of life for you one day....lots of people in the Third World do it as a way of life because they don't have the means to produce the goods for export cheap enough that anybody else wants...except raw materials, but they have to buy the stuff back once their raw materials have been processed to make more interesting bits of junk they don't need but are encouraged to want. Your best bet would be to go out into the country and buy up 3 acres or so and get your hands dirty, plant a few vegies and live on the land, generate your own electricity and pump water while you still can....oh and you might want to learn how to build a mud hut as well....LOL.....nothing like being self sufficient. If'n you want a few tips, look up Mike Reynolds and Earth Ship to see how it's done. Ian.

[handlewanker]

Once again it's the governments fault for self pity and lack of initiative.

The Governments are put in place by the vote of the people, I.E. anyone who can put a cross on a piece of paper.

Perhaps you live in a dream world of what should be happening instead of what is actually happening.

There'll always be a ruling community of those that wish to lead and think they are saviours of the people, while in reality it is the people who become the government when they nominate one of their members to do with them as he/she pleases.

Scrambling up the dung heap is a Human characteristic, purely for self interest types who wish to be feted with the attention of the masses, and the trappings of glory that they enjoy for such a short time.

In every case where Capitalism is applied, there are those that profit and those that make the profit......without exploitation you can not have profitability....and profitability is based upon making the most profit without the need to share it out.

BTW, if'n you go into busines the thing furthest from your mind is profit sharing with those that created the profit, and the thing closest to your mind is how to pay less to those that are the bread winners of your enterprise.
Ian.

[Michael4yah]

Not one stone will be left upon another.

[Michael4yah]

Mammoth Ca. 135 mph winds

Scotland 165 mph winds

In just the last week.

[handlewanker]

Hey man, the body count may be high, soldiers are expendable, but what price would you have wanted to pay if'n you did nothing and became the next Soviet bloc addition?

Nobody had a crystal ball powerfull enough to predict the lost cause that was Communism.

You can't have it all ways, either do nothing or empower your president to nominate a strategic campaign of containment.
Ian.

[handlewanker]

Go boil your head Graci33rt....damm spammer.

[sully0400]

Warms in the day and cools at night.



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[handlewanker]

What's that white stuff yo' bin sweeping, boy......looks like dandruff, but he's been dead 20 years now....LOL.
Ian.

[holic46]

Global warming is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the mankind by All Gore, George Soros and similar shysters to make millions from carbon trading. The so called alternative - solar, wind - is hogwash, it can never provide the base load power.
In Australia,from 1 July, we are going to pay $23AD/ton "carbon tax". This is going to kill our industries and move them to China or somewhere else.
At the same time we are exporting millions of tons of coal to China to feed theirs coal fired power stations to produce cheap power to enable Chines to produce cheap goods that are flooding our and Americans markets.
How stupid is that?

[Coxsteve]

Hi all first post on cnczone I have read this whole thread and would like to make a few points.
1: That big yellow ball we see daily is the main driver of temperature and hence weather patterns,higher up toward the poles where sunlight angles are shallower it is much colder,then it goes away overnight and gets colder by large degrees not piddling amounts they try and use to justify Climate Change.
2:NASA solar dynamics observatory gives out regular press releases such as SSRC2008 1&2 etc worth a read where they predict the coming Global cooling that has been occurring for the last decade when the Global warming gurus changed tact from Global Warming to "Climate Change" that alone is a dead giveaway to the crock this whole theory is.Hint it is the Sun that drives Climate mainly.
3:Follow the money as always is the path to truth,I Regularily use the Edgar2 system on the American Security and Exchange Commission site to trace the money trail as well as just who owns what these days,Boring as bat**** but a very good source for information if you bother to chase it.
4: Regarding Canadian and Northern California deforestation because of rampant beetles maybe just maybe the California Greens have much to answer for here,Forget that when someone posted blaming "Global Warming for this issue they neglected to highlight the other method of Nature to control these pests was Fire.
Control fire and not allow natural burns to occur and they spread farther afield seems logical to me so the Greens have responsibility there to some extent,That also accounts for the extreme fires experienced worldwide since the rise of Green power.

If you store more fuel you get bigger more destructive fires,Simple really

For those interested in provable facts about the state of play just go into places like the Chicago Tribune,London Times,New York times and look at the archives,they can also be searched online,But real paper can be carbon dated to prove it is real from that time frame not altered electronically as so much has been to prove the theory.

These Resources give a time capsule look into the past with articles such as Captain Robert Peary talking about the new "Ice Age" early in the 20th Century,this was then followed into the 30's and 40's by Global warming and heatwaves which was overtaken by WW2,On into the 60's and 70's with yet again talk of another Ice Age,then the latest storyline to scare the fools.
Seeing a pattern yet with the media and politicians not to mention unscrupulous business who suddenly change nothing and become "Green and Fuzzy".

As always it is about power and money,Take the IPCC for Instance a part of the United Nations.

Let us examine the UN for a Minute logically First mooted by the Left side of Politics the first Nations to sign up were Persia (Iran) and Libya that alone rings my Warning Bells.
The UN operates on Democratic principles within the main body hence the more votes gain the power on the floor and set the Agenda.

We in the Western Nations that also include places such as Japan not just Europe the USA Canada Australia the UK etc are outnumbered by over 100 Islamic Nations,who knows just how many closet or otherwise Socialist regimes and a smattering of Nutter Criminals such as Robert Mugabe.
Here in Australia we were betrayed by successive Left political parties as well as betrayed by some conservatives in not fixing the betrayal by the Left in selling us out to the rampages of the UN with mandates designed to destroy our Lifestyles and Industries as well as personal rights,Even the right to feed ourselves was attacked when the UN Trade bodies mandated we accept tainted Apples from New Zealand,These were banned imports to keep out the Fire Blight disease,World Trade Organization overruled that wise approach and ruled to bring in a disease to destroy crops such as Peaches Pears and Apples all affected by Fire Blight.
As a side note to the old dears in inner city enclaves who vote Green Fire Blight also kills their favorite Roses potentially destroying yet another Industry.

Bottom Line the UN is our enemy and so called Climate Change is their baby along with other things such as World Trade Organization,International World bank that has raped and pillaged all through Africa they are aided by Treasonous people such as many current and recent politicians and Big International Industry.

Bottom line is no matter who you are and from what country these people and their organizations are to you like Nazi's were to Jews they will stop at nothing and continue to run rampant over all people eventually even though you may benefit short term the longer term you always lose.

So look at what you post consider Human Nature and open your eyes to the facts about arguments from all sides for it is only the average person who can fix this rot and freedom is not a given but a Moral imperative we must cherish Nurture and pass on to future generations as well as enjoy ourselves but it has been paid for in blood time and time again,Remember that Sacrifice and pay it Due Respect.