Global Warming Poll

[cjmerlincnc]

Thanks for that Martin.

On the other hand, Using less electric is good too. They have recently been harping on about it on the telly, "Switch things off,Switch things off"!

The only thing I want to do is switch the telly off. But because of the genius who made my television, when you switch it off it loses all the channel settings and you have to reprogramme it again when you switch it on. So you leave it on standby right.

Wrong! I live in a part of the UK where farmer down the road switches his BIG machine on and I get a brown out about 2 or three times a week so I bought a UPS to keep the telly on standby permanently.

Then we went "Digital" cos the TV reception got so poor since the farmer down the road started growing trees for fuel in the field at the back.

Now these Sky boxes, latest technology right, press your remote to switch it off, little red light comes on and I go to bed happy in the knowledge I've turned it off (on standby) and saved the planet.

In the morning I turn it on to watch the news and noticed the 'Sky box' is still warm to the touch, I say warm, It's alot hotter than I would like for something that has been off all night. Pondering the idea that laying a slice of bread on top so I can have toast when I get up, I did a bit of research into this phenomenon and was suprised to find that switching it on standby just turns off the video output and the rest of the works has been happily burning my electric.

I do have the option of turning it off at the plug but thats "down the back" amongst all the cables and spiders webs and I don't feel like crawling around and stuffing my arm into those places before I go to bed every night.

I'm sure that we have the technology to make a small circuit that uses a gnat's fart of electric to keep all our precious gadgets on standby instead of the usual 12 Watts that my TV uses.

Lets make the manufacturers save us from ourselves!


Regards

[martinw]

Dear cjmerlincnc,

Could I possibly congratulate you for a most magnificent rant??

The very thought of all those gadgets on stand-by and their wretched remotes is enough to make anybody seeth.

By the way, how can it possibly be that mankind seems incapable of coming up with a battery compartment cover that doesn't break within a fortnight?? All mine are held together with Band-Aid, masking tape, rubber bands etc. If we can't solve that problem, what hope have we of "saving the planet"?

Best wishes,

Martin

[MIKE JEFFERS]

yup cj..... why is it that any audio visual bit of harware does that
you cannott switch the fookers off unless you unplug then
our big telly,ninty wee,dab radio,surround sound stuff ,and it all Humms away
on stand-by
ffs save the planet ...........bolloks

[martinw]

Here is something that may be of interest. Chilling stuff really. These are not my words

A document published by the Institute of Public Policy Research is entitled "Warm Words - how are we telling the climate story and can we tell it better?" It was written to advise pressure groups and environmental campaign organisations on how to mould and influence public attitudes to climate change.

The following paragraphs, with only minor changes of wording, appear twice in the document and form the overall conclusion drawn from what the authors call "research".

"Treating climate change as beyond argument
Much of the noise in the climate change discourse comes from argument and counter-argument, and it is our recommendation that, at least for popular communications, interested agencies now need to treat the argument as having been won. This means simply behaving as if climate change exists and is real, and that individual actions are effective. This must be done by stepping away form the "advocates debate" described earlier, rather than by stating and re-stating these things as fact.

The "facts" need to be treated as being so taken-for-granted that they need not be spoken. The certainty of the Government's new climate-change slogan - "together this generation will tackle climate change" (Defra 2006) - gives an example of this approach. It constructs, rather than claims, its own factuality.

Best wishes

Martin

[martinw]

Sorry..double post..

Martin

[blackseabrew]

Have you or anyone else on this site seen the documentary shown by the BBC called the 'Global Warming Swindle'? I doubt it gets shown in America. It's very believable and make's Al Gore's production look really bad.

[Walt@SGS.Inc]

Of all the people that are complaining about global warming, how many have planted a tree? Or better yet, how many have planted an acre of Christmas trees? Everyone wants to scream holler and yell and wait for someone else to do something.
Sad regards Walt..

[cjmerlincnc]

Hi Walt, You're the man!

I've almost read all there is on the Global Warming debate, and cutting all the political bulls*^t the sure thing I know is it is going to happen whether we like it or not. Mankind is not going to influence it in any way (perhaps a small bit but not enough) and do we want mankind f**king around with the weather?

I agree with conserving our energy and doing our bit and planting trees is the way to go keeping mankind on the planet.

It's the best way of hedging our bets, planting helps lock up CO2 thereby reducing warming - but if at some point the Gulf stream ceases thus causing massive cooling we can cut the F**ker's down and burn them to keep warm!

LOL..

[Yardbird RC]

Just wait a few years.

When We (USA) pull out of the middle east and Iran fills in the power vacuum. They will have a strangle hold on the worlds oil supply and We'll all be riding bicycles.

[sdantonio]

Originally Posted by Walt@SGS.Inc Of all the people that are complaining about global warming, how many have planted a tree? Or better yet, how many have planted an acre of Christmas trees? Everyone wants to scream holler and yell and wait for someone else to do something. Sad regards Walt..

Does my garden count. It consumes quite a lot of CO2, and unlike a tree, I can eat the fruits of my labor (saving harvesting power and transportation power and store refrigeration power).

[Walt@SGS.Inc]

When it comes to planting trees, I was refering to farming Christmas trees. Plant them care for them 8 to 12 years. Shear them to make them look like a Christmas tree and then someone from green space, or what ever they call themselves, come by to protest you harvesting the "crop" because they are giving off oxygen and taking in CO2. They will protest, carry signs, get in your way etc,etc, but ask them to help you plant another 4000 seedlings and they will cry they don't have time or someother piece of crap. But, they really have time to protest but, not enough time to work to solve the problem, only time to protest what someone else it doing. Please don't tell them I just cut down a tree in the backyard that was going to fall on my house in the next wind storm. It was only 30 feet tall and 20 feet in diameter. Had about 200 bushels on leaves every year. Most of them stuck in the eaves. I think I am going to plant about 200 Black Walknut trees in the back forty. Plan on letting them for the great grand kids, maybe the great great grand kids. Let them deal with the folks from green what ever. Maybe they can throw walnuts at them.
Best regards Walt.

[martinw]

Originally Posted by Walt@SGS.Inc When it comes to planting trees, I was refering to farming Christmas trees. Plant them care for them 8 to 12 years. Shear them to make them look like a Christmas tree and then someone from green space, or what ever they call themselves, come by to protest you harvesting the "crop" because they are giving off oxygen and taking in CO2. Walt.

Dear Walt,

I wish it was that simple. By all accounts, coniferous trees out-gas terpenes which are apparantly a "greenhouse gas". This was pointed out, I think by Geof.

I do not know how long coniferous trees have grown in North America, but it must have been "a good few years"... perhaps even longer than grapes.

During those " good few years", the wretched dangerous things must have spewed out quite a bit of the deadly planet-destroying stuff. Thank Heavens that commercial logging came on-board to save us all.

Best wishes,

Martin