Gored by Gore

[fizzissist]

It's high time Gore is exfoliated, and exposed for what he really is.

His Inconvenient Truth is anything but, and I'm going to start the ball rolling by pointing out some of the actual science that he has conveniently chosen to leave out of his movie......

Let's start with this, from the website for his movie, An Inconvenient Truth, and the link titled "The Science."
http://www.climatecrisis.net/thescience/

"The number of Category 4 and 5 hurricanes has almost doubled in the last 30 years." ....the cite is from an article by Kerry Emanuel in Nature, 2005.

But look what Kerry Emanuel says in Jan 2006 in a FAQ on his MIT website.....

1.) Q: Is global warming causing more hurricanes?
A: No. The global, annual frequency of tropical cyclones (the generic, meteorological term for the storm that is called a tropical storm or hurricane in the Atlantic region) is about 90, plus or minus 10. There is no indication whatsoever of a long-term trend in this number.

3.) Q: Is the intensity of hurricanes increasing with time?
A: There is some (my emphasis added) evidence that it is.

4.) Q: But aren’t there lots of errors in the hurricane record?
A: Yes, there are...

6.) Q: You say that reliable records of hurricane wind speeds go back only to about 1950, so how can you say that there were not even more intense storms before 1950? How can you assert that the upswing in the last 50 years is a consequence of global warming?
A: We cannot say for sure......

......and this little gem:
8.) Q: I gather from this last discussion that it would be absurd to attribute the Katrina disaster to global warming?
A: Yes, it would be absurd.

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In the start page for the the movie's website, there's a little slideshow. Does anyone recognize the location where the boats are that are grounded in the desert?? I don't suppose anyone knows the real reason that the body of water they used to float in is all dried up???

[Geof]

Originally Posted by fizzissist .....In the start page for the the movie's website, there's a little slideshow. Does anyone recognize the location where the boats are that are grounded in the desert?? I don't suppose anyone knows the real reason that the body of water they used to float in is all dried up???

I have not seen the movie but will make a guess; Aral Sea. Reason for lack of water? Cotton.

[fizzissist]

Originally Posted by Geof I have not seen the movie but will make a guess; Aral Sea. Reason for lack of water? Cotton.

Damn! You're good!!

Got nuthin' to do with global warming (in the sense of anthropogenic greenhouse gasses), but sure makes for good scare tactics!!

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...&ct=image&cd=3
This is actually an incredibly good example of man's land use robbing peter to pay paul, and they both really lose in the end. It could just as easily have been something that is causing global cooling...but the bigger question is.....

The environmental impact of diverting all that water should or should not be included in carbon credits? Who would be paying what to whom???

[Geof]

Originally Posted by fizzissist ....The environmental impact of diverting all that water should or should not be included in carbon credits? Who would be paying what to whom???

Well it was used, maybe still is, to grow cotton. This is used for clothing and eventually if the fabric is recycled for paper. Provided in the end it is disposed of in a proper cap-and-seal landfill site it will be sequestered away from decomposition so therefore a positive carbon credit .

[One of Many]

The perfect scam? Only an ex-law-maker could use a loophole like this and pull the wool over everyones eyes!

Gore's retirement and tax shelter plan

No one can deny the climate does change. No one can deny once a politician knows how to work the system, there is always an angle after leaving office, to help themselves!


DC

[fizzissist]

I've already blasted the Snoop-Gass-Dogg for his energy hyporcrisy...now there's this
From NewsBusters

Lynn Davidson's blog

Rap Star In Gore Climate Concert Lineup Flies Dinner Across The Atlantic

Posted by Lynn Davidson on March 5, 2007 - 11:04.

"How is Al Gore going to explain this one? Multi-platinum-selling rapper Kanye West, who infamously said during the Katrina telethon, "George Bush doesn't care about black people" has something else to explain. The AP reports that Kanye asked a restaurant in Cardiff, Wales to fly a chef and a meal across the Atlantic ocean to a Manhattan business meeting this Wednesday for about $4000 "plus travel and accomodation for the restaurant's head chef" and the addition of lots of Earth-killing greenhouse gases. OK, that seems typical for the music biz, after all, Bono did have a forgotten favorite hat flown first class that was flown from London to Italy for about $1700, but now people are now paying attention to celebrity hypocrisy more closely. Kanye is signed up for Al Gore's Live Earth, which is designed to raise money for and awareness of human-caused global climate change and is the latest giant concert that will save the world. (AP didn't connect the political dots.)"

[fizzissist]

Gore claims responsibility for the internet (he didn't actually say he "invented" it..he just got it funded), then he tapped into the retirement funds of California public employees to fund his new cable TV company Current TV and wants people to email in videos....using the internet....
....and he wants us to reduce our energy consumption.

Lookey what the energy usage for the internet has gotten to for server requirements alone!!!

Environmental Valuation & Cost-Benefit News

"...Driving the server proliferation is the insatiable appetite for Web content, such as video on demand, music downloads, and Internet telephony, Koomey says.

The total electricity bill to operate data center servers and related infrastructure equipment in the United States was $2.7 billion in 2005, compared with $1.3 billion in 2000. Worldwide, the total bill was $7.2 billion in 2005, compared with $3.2 billion in 2000.

Looked at differently, U.S. data center power consumption in 2005 was equivalent to about five 1,000- megawatt power plants, or five typical nuclear or coal power plants, Koomey says.

Data center servers consumed 0.6% of all electricity in the United States in 2005. When auxiliary infrastructure equipment, including network and cooling gear, is thrown in, that figure jumps to 1.2%, about the same percentage consumption as for televisions...."

http://envirovaluation.org/index.php...mationweek_com

Ha! I've got 4 operational computers at home for the fambly, and 2 at work for just for me. Gimme some more 'o that web content!! We're so bad, we all sit and play on the 'puters while watching TV.....

[vacpress]

as a human being living in a major city, and within 3/4 mile of a coal burning power plant, i still cannot help being glad Al (the obvious fibber) gore is sticking up for environmental concerns. One of the few things to back his cedability is that he put out that book in the, i think, 70s, detailing some of the same issues.

George Bush's total destruction of 'the clean air act' is shocking and shameful. The 'polution market' system that replaced it is directly responsible for this plant i live by being able to emit with no regard for the 10s of thousands of people living within a 1 or 2 mile radius of it..

Sure gore is a bit of a cock-head. But, at least he didnt scrap the clean air act.. I see a big gap between 'Evil' (scrapping clean air act) and good, if self serving (making an emotional plea for better energy policy).

There are lots of ways to use statistics.. Grasping at straws to prove climate change is one thing. Considering the reported 5,000+ low income (mexican) kids in my hood with asthma (like 85% higher than average), to not grasp at straws in favor of reasonable policy is shocking.

[fizzissist]

Reasonable policy? Like carbon credit trading??

"A responsible approach to solving this crisis," Al Gore said recently at New York University's Law School, would be "to authorize the trading of emissions ... globally."

".....So far, the real winners in emissions trading have been polluting factory owners who can sell menial cuts for massive profits, and the brokers who pocket fees each time a company buys or sells the right to pollute. "Carbon trading is a promising strategy for reducing greenhouse-gas emissions," says Dan Esty, director of Yale's Center for Environmental Law and Policy, "but the current structures have serious flaws." ......

....Since developing countries don't have any caps on emissions, companies can take the handsome payments they receive from carbon cuts and use the money to build new fossil-fuel and coal factories. India's Gujarat Fluorochemical, for instance, made €27 million in the last three months of 2006—triple its total company earnings compared with the same period in 2005—thanks to carbon credits. That boost in profits will no doubt help fund its new plant for making Teflon and caustic soda, both polluting substances....."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17435875/site/newsweek

Policy, as defined by AlGore, equals profit. As you'll see if you read this article....with caution, 'cause you know how Newsweek likes to grasp at straws....that we're paying, and they're gaining, and we all are breathing the same air. As the article points out, the carbon credit "policy" is a shell game, not a solution. Ah, but AlGore wants you to think it's a solution.

More and more articles are focusing on Asia's increasing pollution, which by some estimations is far worse than previously believed.....but never mind all that...it's Bush's fault.
.....ps....glad to hear you're a human being. I just hate it when people's pets log on and post here.

[vacpress]

the people who own the power plant i live near do not consider me a human being!

Also, for some reason I have the impression that previous to george bush, there was the Clean Air Act which attempted to set standards for power plants to reduce emissions over time, with concrete goals..

Bush, if I am not mistaken, totally scrapped this in favor of an emissions market.. I gathered all of this listening to NPR all the time. I had never seen gore try and push the emissions market! I hate and loathe the emissions market! These ******** who own the power company make so much $$, and us poor-neighborhooders, we pay the same as the 'white' people for power, who are literally being subsidized by us.

I will now read this article you posted. The main point I was raising is that I am glad someone is saying something.. George W. says scary stuff where he claims this system that allows a power point in chicago to buy pollution rights from a hydro station in seattle is a great idea, and he keeps calling the clean air act 'broken'... Not to mind that he broke it.. It was like his 3rd month in office.. Before spet 11th made a man of him.

The point about these pollution profits being used to build outside the controlled area is also a good point..

Get out your gas masks.

[vacpress]

oh. as far as 'newsweek grasping at straws', i do not beleive anything i read, unless it was on CNCzone, and ger21 posted it!

[One of Many]

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Bush, if I am not mistaken, totally scrapped this in favor of an emissions market.. I gathered all of this listening to NPR all the time. I had never seen gore try and push the emissions market! I hate and loathe the emissions market! These ******** who own the power company make so much $$, and us poor-neighborhooders, we pay the same as the 'white' people for power, who are literally being subsidized by us.

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So, are we to gather the what comes out of NPR as a public subsidized entity, an honorable news organization that rarely allows both views but the majority being leftist spun opinions?

As history will show, the majority of any working class race subsidizes the majority of all minorities. Singling out 'whites' as the kWhr price benchmark divider, is a bit incendiary, but reflects an NPR stylized conduct in blame ethics.

Had Bush not put a stop to the burden on some power plants, which would pass that burden on to the consumer, NPR would still be the acting smear merchant against his administration not controlling energy cost. Similar demands like this were set on the auto industry to mass produce electric cars by a certain date. But the cost and lack of scientific advances take precedence as facing reality set in. It is like the NPR supporting left preference would be to have a company roll up and die as justice for impractical expectations regardless of cost. Oh, I forgot......this could be subsidized too since it can't support itself.

NPR's idea of Paradise: First a Nanny state, then a Sugar Daddy state. Socialism means never being WEANED FROM THE TIT!

DC