Who else believes...

[x6xtyx9x]

Does anyone else believe that global warming is nothing more than a conspiracy blown out of proportion?

Sure I agree that we do our harm to our environment... don't get me wrong. But I do not believe that global warming is truly portrayed. I feel as though our world is a world based on perpetual physics and because of which the world balances itself on its own.

In comparison I feel it is a perfect balance of torque and horsepower. When mother earth needs to pull herself to normal conditions she decreases the horsepower and finds that low end torque to get to balance. Once the balance is met however, she increases the horsepower to keep things up.

I'd really like to see how others look at this "problem".

[jsage]

I believe that nature will continue to cycle. The phenomenon itself doesn't concern me.

The downside is the weather precipitated by warm wet period could beat the hell out of some parts of the country/world. Look at lousiana, if they and other coastal states continue to be hit by hurricanes, It may just be abandoned.

Ice storms like the one we had here this year came just short of being a real problem. My car had 3/4" of ice on it and many trees were lost. We only had about 4 days of ice but it shut the city down.Not categorically global warming but a big enough deviation from normal to be worth considering. Canada has had Ice storms which took down the major power lines and created a pretty serious emergency with no power in winter. In and of themselves BFD.

The doomsday prediction is that weather becomes so unstable that superstorms damage exceed our ability to repair them. If you magnify what happened in LA by a factor of 5 or 10, using the U.S. as an example then I'd say you have a major problem.

Not to mention that small scale changes upset farming, ocean flora and fauna. Food shortages etc. I'm not sure how many metrosexuals ; ) and the elderly would fair under a more primitive environment .

Consider how much movement of goods occur by sea and highway. More frequent and severe storms would definitely complicate what we take for granted.

I'm not overly concerned. I may have beachfront property after the big melt. ; ) But seriously it could be quite bad. Then again, mount helens erupts cools off things for a while then global temps drop a few degrees. We have become more aware which gives us more to be worried about. Current scientific studies show that we have been in an unusually stable period.

Worth considering but who knows for sure.

[x6xtyx9x]

I will be honest I am very spiritual in belief therefore I agree with you. To the contrary I see that people die and advancements are destroyed but I feel that death and destruction are necessary to the large scheme of things. It is a shame that these casualties occur, but one must realize that the Earth must balance herself as priority for the future of existance. The #1 cause of "GreenHouse gases" are displaced by her and her alone.

Has anyone else heard it takes $1.25 worth of gas to make a $1 worth of gasoline? I'm from a farming family and live on one... yet I am not big on BIO or ethanol anything.

How about the electric generator that runs off magnets and will produce a surplus of electricity?

So many things out there so much for us to decide. I just think we need to focus on our education before we even attempt to fix problems. If we were to properly educate the young we would be able to fix our future problem. See the forum on degrading of education for more.

Tyler

[jsage]

Yep,

With you 100%. Spiritual, Darwinian. Lean towards darwinian realities. Really I'm more concerned with Quality of Life, we have things pretty good for the most globally, it could always be better though.

Y2K was a crazy time in the market. I remember some ones comment on issues like global warming, "sit back and enjoy the ride." Not quite a 100% on that.

[dertsap]

i don t know much about global warming but i'd like to know how many trees have been cut to cover the global warming stories in the news papers
lately 1/2 the paper is about climate change and how we need more trees and less vehicles

i am absolutely fed up with hearing about all they're new theories

[x6xtyx9x]

Not to be a hater on any politician... but ummm..... Here's another look at it...... Methane gases released from bull ^%(^ (livestock).... makes up a large percentage according to a lot of studies...Now if we took all of Al Gore's bull %^(% from trying to make himself look good by standing up to BIG BAD global warming... then the Bahamas would be having a blizzard next weekend.

Words of wisdom.... Join the anarachist republican property.
Whats that you may ask... People who beleive in the principals our forefathers set for us. Not this mumbo jumbo crap we are set and who are willing to stick up for what they beleive... not some pork bellied Washington junk head.

[jsage]

I just don't read the newspaper or watch local news (much). SSDD. Sensationalism is annoying.

"There must be some way out of here," said the joker to the thief,
"There's too much confusion, I can't get no relief.
Businessmen, they drink my wine, plowmen dig my earth,
None of them along the line know what any of it is worth."

"No reason to get excited," the thief, he kindly spoke,
"There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke.
But you and I, we've been through that, and this is not our fate,
So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late."

All along the watchtower, princes kept the view
While all the women came and went, barefoot servants, too.

Outside in the distance a wildcat did growl,
Two riders were approaching, the wind began to howl.


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[LUCKY13]

Just wandering, did anyone see the program on the Discovery Channel about GW, about two nights ago. It seems they have seen enough proof of GW that they felt the need to act on it in a big way. It went on to inform that the US & Brit Gov have been putting Aluminum Oxide in jet fuel for the purpose of blocking/reflecting the suns rays to reduce GW. It is suppost to float in the upper Atmisphere and work like tiny little mirrors to reflect the sun away. They found alot of proof that they was doing this. The GOV even denied the testing of the fuel used for GOV jets.


The claim that you can see the effect on some jets. It seems that the smoke trail takes much longer to dissapate from site.


I dont really know if we are doing anything to cause GW, I would think that we are. But I also wander just how much damage could come from something like this. Could it be they even caused the bad winters that the mid west has been through by putting this element into the air.

I didnt get to see the whole show, but I will be watching to catch the next time they air it , so I can see in more detail what they was talking about.


Jess

[x6xtyx9x]

Hmmm...very interesting. Did anyone remember when the X's in the sky from jets were believed to be population control.....toxic chemicals used to aid in the need for pharmaceuticals....... not to mention imunitations which are being shown may cause ADHD as well as BIPolars... etc.... O wait.... my bipolar condition occured right after immunizations.

As far as I am concerned.... What goes up ...must go down. Aluminum oxide..... how safe can that be inhaling. Alzheimer's patients seem to show a larger content of aluminum in their bodies for example. Hmmm.... coincidence.....aluminum is a wonderful material... but what about metal toxicity and such.

I'm going to have to watch that... if you could would you mind posting the next time up if you see it advertised.
Thanks.

[One of Many]

No, I think it is a diversion from real issues.

Look at the mentality and character traits of those pushing the dogma.

Left leaning, fear mongering demagogs totally opposed to protecting there own from radical sects they can relate to. Yet, issues like abortion are in direct conflict with saving the animals. Anti-war is in direct conflict with saving the lives, and freedom from oppressive governments. Gay marriage is in direct conflict with with most religons, sanctified by a God they deny and ignore.

It appears to be any cause in direct opposition to those they disagree with. There is no middle ground. They want total control, while having no self control.

DC

[x6xtyx9x]

Brilliant philosophy. Its an amazing look at this subject. It all makes sense based on human nature. By nature mankind refuses to accept their mistakes. By blaming their problems on those who lived before them, as well as a problem as near to impossible to control because it is of nature mankind has a scapegoat to all it can not control.

A machinist's philosophy... a beautiful thing of both science and emotion.

[jsage]

Only good thing about dogma is it is expedient, simple.

The danger of any highly focused view is it assumes itself as the most important. Global Warming as in "the trend is towards getting warmer can be quantified." Predicting when and what will happen next is a multivariate model from hell.

Polarized views get attention. The real danger is in the interpretation or lack thereof. As for what is right or wrong, that is a construct. Religion, philosophy, laws are basically ways of making moral dilemmas simpler although sometimes they make things more complicated

I used to wonder why third parties exist. For the most part they have very little chance for success election wise. However, they typically cause the standard party platforms to consider the impact of the lost third party votes and pick up a less radical compromise of that party. So in an effect third parties can lose but really win.

Sometimes we need to see something over and over again to let our minds either consciously or subconsciously consider it. Each individual theory within itself has limited value. The best theories within context are what matter.

Sometimes a dialectic of two opposing viewpoints arrive at grey compromise from two divergent views.


Just the failure of atlantic and oceanic conveyor is enough to cause major problems. We often think that weather effects the ocean temps when to a large degree the oceans redistribute extremes of temperature. If the conveyor fails then atmospheric forces, storms etc will handle these divergent temps more violently.


Splitting hairs here but that's my view.

So I have forgotten the question. Where can I find this challenge and how it is spelled out.


Regards.