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    Alternate Energy

    When the world is turning towards renewable sources of energy, the importance of World Energy Research cannot be overlooked. The world energy research enables the investors in making profitable investments in the energy market by giving them the options that are specific to their needs and protect them from the vulnerabilities of the market.

    With the fossil fuel energy becoming lesser in availability with time and its prices soaring, renewable energy comes as a relief for energy dependent economies. Renewable energy can be regenerated on completion and is unlimited in availability. The initial costs of installing a renewable energy plant may be high but once it is over, the energy is highly cost effective.

    world energy holdings helps the investors in making profits by providing the options that are specific to their needs. In the recent years, the usage of alternate energies have grown, which is seen in the increase in investments into the energy sector. World Energy Holdings is the parent company and governing body of World Energy Research.


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    Go digging for the corporate officers or principals of World Energy Holdings....lemme know what you find.

    Why are the results not surprising????


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    Alternative energy sources cannot be depleted, thus making it impossible for worldwide energy shortages to occur. This is one of the most important alternative energy benefits, because renewable energy will always be in abundant supply for mass use, and will not run out like fossil fuels. The sun, wind, tides, and other natural elements will always be there for us to take advantage of.


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    All of this falls short.

    Take Ontario for example.

    The Provincial government now pays producers 80 cents a kilowatt hour for solar and 44 cents a kilowatt for wind power. Now give your head a shake and do the math. It may be green but no one can afford to buy it. So the government covers the short fall by spreading it over the whole province. That short fall is calculated every 6 months and then dispersed. The contracts for the producers are a 20 year term. Tell me when it becomes free, Like Never.

    Show me anything that last 20 years and it does not require any sort of repair.

    2 weeks ago Ontario had a surplus of Green Energy that we sold to New York State for 6 cents a kilowatt hour and the people of Ontario paid the short fall.

    Ontario's electricity rates are expected to go up by 46% to fund the Green Energy act. The world is a global market, dollars talk, businesses move to where they can make the most dollars. Sure they can ride out a storm, but if the storm will never end, they pack up and leave.

    If Green energy is to work everyone has to jump on board to level the playing field.

    With solar and wind, you still have to back it up with something else. It is like buying a new car, don't buy one, get two because it one won't start you have the other one sitting there as a back up. Oh did I mention you still have to pay for both cars even though you are only driving one at time.

    For now, all I can see is manufactors leaving Ontario, jobs getting harder to find, but we can see it all happen with Green Energy chasing them out of the province.

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    Sad to say, but most people won’t get serious about “Alternative Energy” until the old way of doing things causes a big pain in the wallet.
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    Perhaps the entire alternative energy program concept is being funded incorrectly. First, some simple terms that we all know, but people like to pretend they forgot:

    1) Investment.
    - An investment is when you put in money, and receive stock ownership for a capital project. You have partial ownership in a company because you a) Think it will be worth more in the future if reasonably well run b) will pay a dividend c) Think it is a good social idea, even if it will not be all that profitable.

    2) Loan
    - a loan is not an investment, it is a debt with interest payments. There are a lot of people that like to pretend that lending money to someone is the same as an "investment". Banks especially like to use this term.

    3) Government Investments vs Private Investments

    There are projects that make sense for private investors. In most cases, especially now, these need to have returns of no more than 5 - 10 years. Very few serious size utility type projects in history have ever actually done this.

    There are also projects that make sense for governments to invest in for the greater social good. Roads, bridges, and large hydro dams are historic examples of projects which simply are not viable for private investors, as the risk is too high, or the payback is too long.

    The challenge we have, is that somehow we imagine that private investors need to make their full goal ROI at no risk on projects that really are the type that should be government owned investments. Large size alternative energy projects might in fact be another of these cases.

    The potential "jobs producing" aspect of alternative energy projects has more or less fallen on its face here in California, as the solar panels and wind turbines are just one more Chinese import item. The net jobs value vs taxes is more or less zero. This is one of the big reasons that Spain and Portugal have gotten into so much financial trouble.

    If the real goal is to produce alternative energy at reasonable scale and reasonable prices, and the tax payers are going to be on the hook anyway, then it makes sense to take the private sector investors out of those plants completely, and retain full ownership by the government.

    For those who don't really like gov't ownership, which includes me, then just setup these operations as corporations and distribute the stock ownership to the shareholders that are funding it - the citizens of that country. 100 preferred shares to each citizen, and citizens hold 90% of the ownership, the gov't 10 %. Problem solved.


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    Yes,your right ,roads, bridges, and large hydro dams are historic examples of projects which simply are not viable for private investors
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    Alternative energy is an umbrella term that refers to any source of usable energy intended to replace fuel sources without the undesired consequences of the replaced fuels.

    The term "alternative" presupposes a set of undesirable energy technologies against which "alternative energies" are contrasted. As such, the list of energy technologies excluded is an indicator of which problems the alternative technologies are intended to address. Controversies regarding dominant sources of energy and their alternatives have a long history. The nature of what was regarded alternative energy sources has changed considerably over time, and today, because of the variety of energy choices and differing goals of their advocates, defining some energy types as "alternative" is highly controversial.

    In a general sense in contemporary society, alternative energy is that which is produced without the undesirable consequences of the burning of fossil fuels, such as high carbon dioxide emissions, which is considered to be the major contributing factor of global warming according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Sometimes, this less comprehensive meaning of "alternative energy" excludes nuclear energy (e.g. as defined in the Michigan Next Energy Authority Act of 2002).



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