Looking For A Job- trying to get my foot in the door

[GONE1445]

hi my name is Jesse Liddle I am currently attending Henry Ford Community College for my associates in CNC machining and I am trying to get my foot in the door. Most jop listings I see ask for 5 years experience, so I am stuck between a rock and a hard place

have a resume put together can fax, e-mail, mail etc what ever your needs are

anyone interested please send me a PM

thank you, Jesse

[g-codeguy]

I see you live in Michigan. Too bad. Our company will hire anyone. Flip burgers at Burker King? Hey, come on over. You're just the person we want. Don't speak English? Even better.

I would love to have a guy like you working on the lathes (which I program for). I don't mind helping others, but babysitting gets on my nerves occasionally. To have someone that actually had a grasp on machining would make my day. He$$, I might even kiss you if your hair is long enough!

All kidding aside, I wish you luck. I know how hard it can be in todays society to get one's foot in the door.

I enjoy my job, but I tell youngsters to look for another field of endeavor. Look at your own state. Maybe we all need to learn Chinese. And to enjoy rice, of course.

[makinoman]

Have you tried putting your resume on the internet? Alot of places want previous experience but would take someone who shows an eagerness to learn even with no experience. I have my resume online and get calls all the time. This one company that I am currently looking at wants someone with mold design experience. The recruiter who has been talking to me about the job, forwarded some questions that company had about my past experiences. It was 4 questions, I had to answer no to all of them except 1. But even with that the guy was impressed with my answers and now I have to call him later today for a phone interview. I suggest you post your resume on careerbuilder and monster, as well as any local job sites in your area.

Jon

[Med-Pac]

Here's my 3 cents,
I'd check with your college. Alot of tech schools/college/welding schools have some connections, or possibly a job placement program these days.

Mike

[Bluesman]

Originally Posted by g-codeguy I see you live in Michigan. Too bad. Our company will hire anyone. Flip burgers at Burker King? Hey, come on over. You're just the person we want. Don't speak English? Even better. I would love to have a guy like you working on the lathes (which I program for). I don't mind helping others, but babysitting gets on my nerves occasionally. To have someone that actually had a grasp on machining would make my day. He$$, I might even kiss you if your hair is long enough! All kidding aside, I wish you luck. I know how hard it can be in todays society to get one's foot in the door. I enjoy my job, but I tell youngsters to look for another field of endeavor. Look at your own state. Maybe we all need to learn Chinese. And to enjoy rice, of course.

0

Wow what a cynical **** you are, Why would you discorage the kid like that. You have got to be some useless union skank.
Look kid you are on the right track. There is a shortage of skilled workers in this country and you are acually in a good spot where you are at I am guessing Wayne or Oakland County?
Here is what you do kid. You pick a shop you want to work at and get there early. wait for the boss and just tell him what you want to do and learn.
Give him your resume. Then show up at the same time every day till he either hires you or calls the cops. If he calls the cops then pick a new shop and start all over.
You got to be hungry kid that is what a shop owner wants to see.
I got my first job that way. I was fresh out of school and no intrest in anything I just know I needed a job
I showed up at a small shop in Midland one morning (I heard they were looking for some one to clean and run a cut off saw)
Anyway long story short it took me 6 straight days of showing up before he got there but he finaly hierd me just to get me off his porch.
Anyway 25 years later I am a non-degreed ME working at a Tier 1 parts supplier. And making a pretty decnt living.
So **** this guy and just go get what you want kid

Bluesman

[mc-motorsports]

Originally Posted by g-codeguy I enjoy my job, but I tell youngsters to look for another field of endeavor. Look at your own state. Maybe we all need to learn Chinese. And to enjoy rice, of course.

Please don't discourage anyone from entering our field. It's a tough field, yes, if your skilled and your good, you'll make it. If your not, you might be better off flipping burgers at McDonalds, alteast you'll get a free cheese burger on lunch. It's not easy, but I won't discourage anyone and I think with an associates degree, you've taken more initive than most of us. I think most of us just landed in manufacturing one way or the other, the ones with skill are still here, the others end up cleaning carpets or doing hotel maitence... i.e. changing light bulbs.

There is a lot to learn and you'll probably learn until you retire, it's a never ending cycle, I don't know anyone who knows everything, but to some, that is the best part.

It was once said, a REAL machinist needs to know more than a doctor. I wished I could quote who said it, but anyway, good luck!

And yeah, just fax around your resume, worst case, some temp agency will snag up up and atleast get your feet wet, you'll be ok!

MC

[Runner4404spd]

give me call or drop me a pm i'm looking for a young go getter.

Jerry

[Arty 3000]

hey GONE1445, what part of Mich. do you live? i have family up in that area and I'm thinking of moving my shop up there. maybe either Troy or Saginaw. stick with it. we are short machinist in this country. you will get a job. you will start at the bottom and work your way up. they have made machining a tad bit easier with all the CAD/CAM systems and so on. but, you have a long journey ahead of you my Friend. it's so much to learn in this Field. i have been doing this for 25 years and still learning. but on the flip side of things i have never been unemployed. NEVER. if i did get hit in a layoff i would have to take a week off just to kick back because i knew if i put my resume out someone would call right away. i have my own shop now. full cnc shop. keep in mind. this is a trade that is not going to fall in your lap. don't get frustrated with Trig. you are going to have to want this trade. fall in love with it. breath it. eat it. and you will be successful. well enough from me. take care and good luck.

[3axisrookie]

I was in your position not too long ago. Only school, no cnc work experience. Didn't have much trouble getting a cnc job in general, but had trouble getting the money I wanted. All the shops wanted me to run parts for garbage money. Just kept looking, ende up in a job shop programming, setting up, then running the part. Hell, sometimes I don't even have to run it. The money still isn't where I want it to be, but is decent and getting good experience. The money will follow.

So my advice to you would be to go for those jobs looking for experience. They will call you back. There aren't enough skilled cnc machinists to fill all the jobs. Avoid anything entry level, anyone can do that. You're going to school for setup and programming so that's what you should be trying for.

[g-codeguy]

Originally Posted by Bluesman 0 Wow what a cynical **** you are, Why would you discorage the kid like that. You have got to be some useless union skank. Look kid you are on the right track. There is a shortage of skilled workers in this country and you are acually in a good spot where you are at I am guessing Wayne or Oakland County? Here is what you do kid. You pick a shop you want to work at and get there early. wait for the boss and just tell him what you want to do and learn. Give him your resume. Then show up at the same time every day till he either hires you or calls the cops. If he calls the cops then pick a new shop and start all over. You got to be hungry kid that is what a shop owner wants to see. I got my first job that way. I was fresh out of school and no intrest in anything I just know I needed a job I showed up at a small shop in Midland one morning (I heard they were looking for some one to clean and run a cut off saw) Anyway long story short it took me 6 straight days of showing up before he got there but he finaly hierd me just to get me off his porch. Anyway 25 years later I am a non-degreed ME working at a Tier 1 parts supplier. And making a pretty decnt living. So **** this guy and just go get what you want kid Bluesman

Wow! Where did that come from? You know absolutely nothing about me. Did you actually read my post. Did you see any of the smilie faces? First in 42 years of working, I've only worked in a company with unions for about 9-1/2 years. The unions were probably part of the reason the company had to close its doors. That and pi$$ poor management. The last 23 plus years has been in a non-union job shop.

Apparently you know something about the job opportunities in Michigan for machinists that I am not aware of. According to all I've read, that state is one of the worst for machinists. Too many auto companies closing plants. Here in NJ opportunities aren't very good either. Several companies have either moved out-of-state, out of the country, or closed their doors entirely including one 100 yards up the hill from us. I live in PA, but can't afford to work there. Wages in our industry are too low there to survive.

Talked to a guy from Ohio during one of the Chicago shows a few years ago. His opinion of the machining industry wasn't very optimistic either. He owned a shop.

You are right about there being a shortage of skilled workers in this country. What I stated about Burger King and not being able to speak English are 100% true where I work. As is the fact that I would love to have someone of this kid's caliber working here.

The company owners where I work have purchased quite a few factories in China including at least one foundry. A lot of our old work is now being done there. I can't believe we are the only ones in this situation. So yeah...I discourage youngsters from ENTERING this field. If they are already in it, then I wish them the best of luck. If you read my reply, you will see that I did wish Jesse good luck.

As for you Mr. Bluesman, CHILL. Your remarks about me were totally uncalled for.

If you or anyone else knows of an area were the opportunity for machinists/programmers is booming, I would love to know where it is. I'd consider moving. As far as I know all of us that have 20 years or more in this company haven't had a raise in 7-8 years. Sure would be nice to work in an area where I could expect to get one every year.