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    Default Re: KmotionCNC... Did the windows 10 update kill you?

    Hi MadTooler,
    While it WAS seemingly not acting up under laptop battery power, or other AC outlet, it now acts up 100% with any power source. Additionally, it does not happen immediately upon powering the servos. It may be a minute or so later. With no change in the system wiring or updates, why would it now be a delayed response if it was merely noise only at servo enabling?
    Strange. But random, delayed problems could still be attributed to noise.
    I actually had already added a small delay between contactor and and axis enable with an updated program that also checks that my manual switch for servo power is also on before enabling. Currently at 0.25 seconds. Should I make it more?
    I think that should be plenty of time for power to stabilize.
    Even without my possible hardware issue, I stand by my belief that win 10 is unsuitable for CNC control due to the current MS model of perpetual forced updates (even with an offline system it is rough as with current issues such as networking due to known bugs which means it will continue to be a maintenance headache as well). Regardless of how great of a product the Dynomotion components may be, a constantly changing system controller, due to OS or other, could very realistically end in significant property and personal loss.
    Point well noted. But I think there are advantages to MS's approach of keeping your system updated. I realize you got burned pretty badly. But it isn't entirely clear to me the Updates were the real issue. You might have had some issue with the Laptop that would have crept up eventually regardless.
    Is there any plan to make the full Kmotion/CNC interface run on linux?
    Good question. The missing piece is the GUI. Which is probably the most difficult and expensive. I'm thinking most Users would still prefer Windows over Linux. How much would you be willing to pay for a Linux Version?

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    Default Re: KmotionCNC... Did the windows 10 update kill you?

    Good question. The missing piece is the GUI. Which is probably the most difficult and expensive. I'm thinking most Users would still prefer Windows over Linux. How much would you be willing to pay for a Linux Version?
    Not that I would really know better, but I am surprised the GUI is the toughest. What about a browser friendly version? I see a lot of developers go that way to be OS independent.

    I too prefer using windows over linux, but that is primarily driven by the engineering software I use not giving me a choice, leaving me more comfortable with the environment I am forced into instead of choosing. While linux is definitely a bit more cumbersome, especially for those not command line inclined, it has a lot of huge benefits. As with some of the robotics systems I am involved with developing, you could offer a custom build of the entire OS pre-configured and ready for a clean install for dedicated or dual boot, where that will never be a real possibility under the MS thumb. The cost of the OS would also be very appealing for those that I have noticed are typically considering your product.

    As for cost, your current business model seems to consider the software development as a component of the hardware cost. That was a significant factor for me in choosing your hardware. While I could see and appreciate an increase in future hardware cost to cover the additional OS's supported, it is hard for me to come up with a standalone cost that I would consider paying. I'm probably not the right consumer to base that number on anyway.

    Thanks again for all your attention and responses to my issue.



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