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    Default Solid State Relay on Kflop jp4 or jp6

    Need to connect an Ssr on kflop but jp7 is used with kstep. Do i need to add additional resistors/diodes for not to burn board.
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    Default Re: Solid State Relay on Kflop jp4 or jp6

    Quote Originally Posted by obrif View Post
    Need to connect an Ssr on kflop but jp7 is used with kstep. Do i need to add additional resistors/diodes for not to burn board.
    Thanks

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    Default Re: Solid State Relay on Kflop jp4 or jp6

    It will depend on what SSR you want to use.

    However I can't find the electrical specifications for any of the KFlop pins. The max voltage (3.3/5V) is listed on the Hardware/Connector Description, but there is no mention of switching capacity.



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    Default Re: Solid State Relay on Kflop jp4 or jp6

    Quote Originally Posted by m_c View Post
    It will depend on what SSR you want to use.

    However I can't find the electrical specifications for any of the KFlop pins. The max voltage (3.3/5V) is listed on the Hardware/Connector Description, but there is no mention of switching capacity.
    Something like this
    https://store.comet.bg/download-file.php?id=2755

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    Default Re: Solid State Relay on Kflop jp4 or jp6

    Mam SSR will turn on with TTL input as low a 3 volts should not be a problem on Kflop I controll regular relays



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    Default Re: Solid State Relay on Kflop jp4 or jp6

    it may be safer to use a NPN transistor to buffer the Kflop output

    Solid State Relay on Kflop jp4 or jp6-solid-state-relay-driver-jpg


    if the output had been at 5V logic levels you could of used a "logic level" FET eg BS170 or 2N7000
    ( if I remember correctly it needs a minimum of +4V on its gate to switch a 2N7000 on )

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    Default Re: Solid State Relay on Kflop jp4 or jp6

    KFLOP Outputs (the ones without pull down resistors) can operate in "open collector" mode to drive most "5V devices".

    See this diagram:

    Solid State Relay on Kflop jp4 or jp6-opencollector-png

    The situation is somewhat complicated by the internal protection diodes KFLOP has connected to the 3.3V supply.

    When the output sinks low (switch closed) >4.5V @ 16ma can be applied to the load. This normally meets the specification.

    When "open" (switch open) then the difference between 5V and 3.3V less one diode drop is applied to the load (~1.2V). Often the maximum allowed voltage for the device to be off is not specified. Or specified to be 0.5V or less. Since most inputs involve an LED that only begins to turn on at 1.4V the interface will work.

    Some SSR are specified to turn on at 3V. These would be a better choice and could be connected to the 3.3V supply and the device would see 0V when turned off.

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    Default Re: Solid State Relay on Kflop jp4 or jp6

    Thanks everyone for your support.

    So if well understood I can buy an SSR that has a specific input lower limit of 3V and can connect the +ve side to pin 5 and the -ve to pin 8 of JP4 directly without any buffer circuits/or any additional diodes/resistors.

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    Default Re: Solid State Relay on Kflop jp4 or jp6

    Hi Orland,

    The first 8 IO on KFLOP JP4 and JP6 have relatively strong pull down resistors (150ohms). Because of this pin 5 is only guaranteed to have a high value of 2.4V and will not source much current. Therefore it wouldn't meet the specification of 3V.

    The last 2 IO (pins15 and 16) should work in that manner. Or the IO on JP7 or JP5.

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    Default Re: Solid State Relay on Kflop jp4 or jp6

    Excellent therefore i have more than enough inputs.

    Thanks again Tom.

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    Default Re: Solid State Relay on Kflop jp4 or jp6

    Quote Originally Posted by obrif View Post
    Excellent therefore i have more than enough inputs.

    Thanks again Tom.

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