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    Default Huanyang inverter is hang on startup

    Hello,
    Just powered up my all new Huanyang VFD, The Power led turn ON and the display shows a flashing message (AST 1.0) as attached and that's it! It was working fine for two days and now only this flashing message and None of the keys is responding.
    When pressing PRGRM button, it alters the program settings menus PD001, PD002 ...etc... but it doesn't show any setting values nor error codes!

    It's model HY03D023B 3kW 3PH


    What I see a steady red led inside the enclosure but I am not sure if it's relevant to this status.

    It doesn't matter if the spindle is connected or not.

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    Default Re: Huanyang inverter is hang on startup

    nickoldeon

    First how is the input power wired, and what setting did you set before you ran it, and what motor/spindle are you running

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    Default Re: Huanyang inverter is hang on startup

    Thanks Mactec54,

    The input is 220V 1Ph so it's connected to R&S Terminals, I swapped across R-S-T terminals with no help...

    The spindle is 3kW 220V , I bought them as one set from Amazon

    Amazon.com: 3KW 220V Er20 Collet Air Cooled CNC Spindle Motor and 3kw 220v Vfd Variable Frequency Drive: Home Improvement

    I set PD003, PD004, PD006 to 300 HZ
    PD141 220V
    PD142 1.8A
    PD143 2 Pole
    PD144 3000

    All other settings are left as factory defaults



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    Default Re: Huanyang inverter is hang on startup

    Quote Originally Posted by nickoldeon View Post
    Thanks Mactec54,

    The input is 220V 1Ph so it's connected to R&S Terminals, I swapped across R-S-T terminals with no help...

    The spindle is 3kW 220V , I bought them as one set from Amazon

    Amazon.com: 3KW 220V Er20 Collet Air Cooled CNC Spindle Motor and 3kw 220v Vfd Variable Frequency Drive: Home Improvement

    I set PD003, PD004, PD006 to 300 HZ
    PD141 220V
    PD142 1.8A
    PD143 2 Pole
    PD144 3000

    All other settings are left as factory defaults
    You have a problem with your amp setting 3Kw will be at least 12 Plus amps 3000/220=13.6 Amps, I don't think they will draw that much though, but still needs to be set to suit your spindle

    The wiring normally is used on R & T for best results, if you live in NA you would have 2 Hot wires and a Ground wire going to the VFD Ground Terminal, for your input power conections

    You could try and do a ReSet, then you will have to redo the Parameters

    Here is a list that should be close to what you need to set for your spindle

    Huanyang Mactec54
    PD000=0 for Parameter unlock ( 1 ) for Parameter Lock

    PD001=0 (1 For Remote Control)

    PD002=0

    PD003=300

    PD004=300

    PD005=300

    PD007=20

    PD008=220

    PD009=15

    PD010=8

    PD011=200 (Adjustable to Suit your Spindle Minimum Speed Setting )

    PD13= 08 is for Factory reset, Only use this to set VFD to Factory Default Settings

    PD014 Accel=12 ( Adjust to suit)

    PD015 Deccl=12 (Adjust to suit) ( PD15 is ignored IF PD26=1 Then the Spindle will Coast to a Stop)

    PD141=220 ( Motor Rated Voltage ) (120 for VFD Rated for 120v )

    PD142=12 ? ( Motor Max Amps To Suit Your Spindle)

    PD143=2 ( Motor Number of Poles)

    PD144=3000 (Max Motor RPM) =3,000= (18000)

    PD002=1 ( For Remote Pot use )

    PD70=0 ( This may need to be set to 1 for normal use )

    PD72=300

    PD73=200 (Adjustable to Suite Your Spindle)

    Mactec54


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    Quote Originally Posted by mactec54 View Post
    You have a problem with your amp setting 3Kw will be at least 12 Plus amps 3000/220=13.6 Amps, I don't think they will draw that much though, but still needs to be set to suit your spindle

    The wiring normally is used on R & T for best results, if you live in NA you would have 2 Hot wires and a Ground wire going to the VFD Ground Terminal, for your input power conections

    You could try and do a ReSet, then you will have to redo the Parameters

    Here is a list that should be close to what you need to set for your spindle

    Huanyang Mactec54
    PD000=0 for Parameter unlock ( 1 ) for Parameter Lock

    PD001=0 (1 For Remote Control)

    PD002=0

    PD003=300

    PD004=300

    PD005=300

    PD007=20

    PD008=220

    PD009=15

    PD010=8

    PD011=200 (Adjustable to Suit your Spindle Minimum Speed Setting )

    PD13= 08 is for Factory reset, Only use this to set VFD to Factory Default Settings

    PD014 Accel=12 ( Adjust to suit)

    PD015 Deccl=12 (Adjust to suit) ( PD15 is ignored IF PD26=1 Then the Spindle will Coast to a Stop)

    PD141=220 ( Motor Rated Voltage ) (120 for VFD Rated for 120v )

    PD142=12 ? ( Motor Max Amps To Suit Your Spindle)

    PD143=2 ( Motor Number of Poles)

    PD144=3000 (Max Motor RPM) =3,000= (18000)

    PD002=1 ( For Remote Pot use )

    PD70=0 ( This may need to be set to 1 for normal use )

    PD72=300

    PD73=200 (Adjustable to Suite Your Spindle)

    Hi Macte54,

    I changed the mains wiring today to R-T but no help, The problem is I can't load any setting values..I've uploaded video for how the display not responding to any key stroke.





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    Default Re: Huanyang inverter is hang on startup

    Quote Originally Posted by nickoldeon View Post
    Hi Macte54,

    I changed the mains wiring today to R-T but no help, The problem is I can't load any setting values..I've uploaded video for how the display not responding to any key stroke.

    Try this remove the Control module, this is the part that you are pressing the buttons, disconnect this from the drive, and then replace it, it may reset,

    Do this with the Power off

    If not the system has locked you out, did you use any code when you first started the drive

    Mactec54


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    Default Re: Huanyang inverter is hang on startup

    nickoldeon

    Question what is your supply amps on the input power to the VFD

    Mactec54


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    Default Re: Huanyang inverter is hang on startup

    Hi Mactec54,

    Unfortunately it did't help I tried also to disconnect the control board from the power board yet still same result..

    This is another video how it switches off, it doesn't go through any sequence..it just switches off as if no program is loaded..




    I will check the supply amps but don't have a clamp meter right now so will check it early tomorrow.



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    Default Re: Huanyang inverter is hang on startup

    Quote Originally Posted by nickoldeon View Post
    Hi Mactec54,I will check the supply amps but don't have a clamp meter right now so will check it early tomorrow.
    You don't have to check the supply with a meter, that won't tell you anything you have to know what the supply to the VFD is capable of, like the circuit Breakers supply wiring Etc

    Mactec54


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    Default Re: Huanyang inverter is hang on startup

    Hi Mactec54,
    The circuit breaker is 30 Amps and 4mm2 cable, so it should be enough, I contacted the factory today and got two tips

    Huanyang inverter is hang on startup-7a048bd57b66888653f4adff7e3d01d5f1d3fef2c3da4ba782-pimgpsh_fullsize_distr-jpg

    Replug the socket on the RHS (#1) which I already did with no help

    "Solder" capacitor (#2) in attached photo..it looks already soldered but anyways I will resolder it...hope it works..



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    Quote Originally Posted by nickoldeon View Post
    Hi Mactec54,
    The circuit breaker is 30 Amps and 4mm2 cable, so it should be enough, I contacted the factory today and got two tips



    Replug the socket on the RHS (#1) which I already did with no help

    "Solder" capacitor (#2) in attached photo..it looks already soldered but anyways I will resolder it...hope it works..

    Hi Matec54, I found one side of the capacitor with high resistance to the next connector...re-soldered it and ....VOILA....BACK TO LIFE!!

    Thank you so much for your support...



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    Default Re: Huanyang inverter is hang on startup

    Hello Nickoldeon
    I seem to have a similar situation
    But on the 2.2KW version Hy02d223b
    After a long while setting up a bandsaw ,trying out another blade, done another test cut at 30HZ
    After which I turned of the machine ....Plugged it out as it still needs some work .......
    It showed a LV error code when I plugged it in again .
    After watching a video " teardown and repair of AC motor inverter "
    I decided to try and troubleshoot mabye a burned tracer or something obvious .
    Upon disassembly I noticed a unconnected wire with just a kink at the end .
    This wire seems to come from the V output terminal
    I GUESSED by the length the wire was, that maybe it was connected to one of the mounting screws
    and when I plugged it in again that LED lit up inside the thing
    That could be the cause of your one too .!
    Needless to say I didn't touch the thing and pulled the plug ..Luckily no smell afterwards

    Does anyone know what this should be connected to ?
    Happy to take Loadsa pictures
    Thanks
    Tom[
    ATTACH=CONFIG]318024[/ATTACH]
    Huanyang inverter is hang on startup-sam_0457-jpg

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    Last edited by Ttrees; 04-25-2016 at 12:45 PM. Reason: forgot about stating KW size of VFD


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    Default Re: Huanyang inverter is hang on startup

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttrees View Post
    Hello Nickoldeon
    I seem to have a similar situation
    But on the 2.2KW version Hy02d223b
    After a long while setting up a bandsaw ,trying out another blade, done another test cut at 30HZ
    After which I turned of the machine ....Plugged it out as it still needs some work .......
    It showed a LV error code when I plugged it in again .
    After watching a video " teardown and repair of AC motor inverter "
    I decided to try and troubleshoot mabye a burned tracer or something obvious .
    Upon disassembly I noticed a unconnected wire with just a kink at the end .
    This wire seems to come from the V output terminal
    I GUESSED by the length the wire was, that maybe it was connected to one of the mounting screws
    and when I plugged it in again that LED lit up inside the thing
    That could be the cause of your one too .!
    Needless to say I didn't touch the thing and pulled the plug ..Luckily no smell afterwards

    Does anyone know what this should be connected to ?
    Happy to take Loadsa pictures
    Thanks
    Tom[
    ATTACH=CONFIG]318024[/ATTACH]
    Huanyang inverter is hang on startup-sam_0457-jpg
    Check on the Heat sink there should of been a screw were this wire is mounted. it looks a little different from the normal, so be careful with that wire, so when you lifted up the bottom Board was this attached under the board to the Heatsink, take a photo of the Heatsink just the top that you saw when you unscrewed the screws from in the holes

    Mactec54


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    Default Re: Huanyang inverter is hang on startup

    Hello Mactec54
    Ive taken another pic of the heat sink
    as you can see its not glaringly obvious that the wire goes anywhere ...
    As Ive said I tried connecting it to the main assembly screws only to see a LED illuminate inside !
    I've been looking around since and found a piccy of a 1.5KW Huanyang that partially shows the wire
    but gives no clue to the final placement .
    Thanks for looking ,happy to keep takin piccys
    Tom
    Huanyang inverter is hang on startup-sam_0469-jpg
    Huanyang inverter is hang on startup-dscn1816-jpg



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    Default Re: Huanyang inverter is hang on startup

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttrees View Post
    Hello Mactec54
    Ive taken another pic of the heat sink
    as you can see its not glaringly obvious that the wire goes anywhere ...
    As Ive said I tried connecting it to the main assembly screws only to see a LED illuminate inside !
    I've been looking around since and found a piccy of a 1.5KW Huanyang that partially shows the wire
    but gives no clue to the final placement .
    Thanks for looking ,happy to keep takin piccys
    Tom
    Huanyang inverter is hang on startup-sam_0469-jpg
    Huanyang inverter is hang on startup-dscn1816-jpg
    If you have a meter then check the wire to the Ground Terminal on the VFD, and see if you get a buzz, if you do then it should be connected to the Heat sink, it may have been under the head of one of the screws you removed

    Mactec54


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    Default Re: Huanyang inverter is hang on startup

    Hi Ttrees,

    Your problem is a bit different than mine...I didn't get any error message or any other messages..it was freezing as if the firmware is not loading..Anyways it's solved now..My Inverter is running at the moment so I can't disassemble but I suggest to send your photos to the manufacturer..they did help me..and they can send wiring diagrams to you.

    That's their website:

    http://www.hy-electrical.com/index_e.asp

    and they have a skype account as below but as they are based in China..I had to wake the whole night to chase them for support

    cindyhyelectrical



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    Default Re: Huanyang inverter is hang on startup

    Quote Originally Posted by mactec54 View Post
    If you have a meter then check the wire to the Ground Terminal on the VFD, and see if you get a buzz, if you do then it should be connected to the Heat sink, it may have been under the head of one of the screws you removed
    Huanyang inverter is hang on startup-sam_0484-jpg
    Huanyang inverter is hang on startup-sam_0494-jpg
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    Looks to me like there's no where else for this wire to go other than the heat sink ?
    Can these tests be performed whilst the power is off ?


    Nickoldeon
    Thanks for the link
    I'm unsure I'd be knowledgeable enough to talk with them about this atall !

    Thanks folks
    Tom

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    Default Re: Huanyang inverter is hang on startup

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttrees View Post
    Huanyang inverter is hang on startup-sam_0484-jpg
    Huanyang inverter is hang on startup-sam_0494-jpg
    Mactec
    Looks to me like there's no where else for this wire to go other than the heat sink ?
    Can these tests be performed whilst the power is off ?


    Nickoldeon
    Thanks for the link
    I'm unsure I'd be knowledgeable enough to talk with them about this atall !

    Thanks folks
    Tom
    No you don't want to be checking anything around there with the power on unless you are an expert or qualified to do so, there is very high voltages in this area

    Mactec54


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