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    Cool CNC Router build

    Hi There,

    I just had some first runs with my CNC Router.

    Here are some prelimary details, there is still a lot to do.

    Travels X=850mm, Y=500mm, Z=100mm

    Had a go at milling a PCB with insulation milling.
    Used a mill-bit I had available and without squaring the mill first.
    I was quite impressed with the raw quality.

    Controller is a Delta Tau PMAC-PC where I download the g-code into.
    PMAC's can run G-code by default.

    Regards,
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    Looks good.


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    Rebuld in progress

    Hi ron22,

    thanks, mechanical is it quit simple but ofcourse not finished.
    Rebuild is in progress, new controller has been ordered.

    Old controllers is PMAC-PC ISA bus
    New controller will be UMAC Turbo2 with four axis analog controller.

    I will share more info when I have it.

    Regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hersoft View Post
    Old controllers is PMAC-PC ISA bus
    New controller will be UMAC Turbo2 with four axis analog controller.
    Is there a reason you are switching to a Turbo? Or is it just because you want the UMAC?
    A turbo is more processing power than you need. I do like the UMAC package.


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    Well the one and very important reason for me is that I like the inbuild g-code
    capabilities if the Delta Tau controllers.

    My original PMAC-PC controllers came from old Gen III Array Spotters which I could salvage. The Lowbow linear slides came from these too.

    I have some strange behavior seen from the PMAC board that I use, and my spare board has an older version of firmware on board.

    I had seen the UMAC systems on Ebay before but now it was a good opportunity and I went for it.

    Higher speed, more memory for the g-code programms and USB connection instead of ISA bus.

    Only thing is I have to convert my motor settings from PMAC to UMAC and this may take a little while.

    Are you working with Delta Tau systems yourself?

    regards,


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hersoft View Post
    Only thing is I have to convert my motor settings from PMAC to UMAC and this may take a little while.
    Converting motor setting from PMAC to Turbo2 (what is inside a UMAC) is not that hard. They did add more I varibles in the Turbo. There are some differacne becuase it is Turbo 2 (I assume your first was a PMAC 1)

    Are you working with Delta Tau systems yourself?
    I work on Delta Tau systems all the time.


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    Hello,

    Yes I have already made a complete backup of the old ISA PMAC-PC 1 board.

    I have to check the I-variables on both systems but at the moment I'm still waiting for the UMAC box to arrive.

    A question ,when I have the following configuration is there atleast one free output bit available to switch on/off the spindle motor?

    I was thinking of using the wachtdog output for this when possible (have to check manual)

    configuration is as follows:

    Computer Turbo PMAC2 USB - ACC-54E
    One ACC24E2A 4 channel board.

    and ofcourse power supply.

    regards,


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    For an extra output map one of the unsed amp enable on the ACC24E2A to a M varible and use that.

    That is realy you only option for outputs with what you have.

    You could buy a I/O card on Ebay if you need more.


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    I was afraid you where going to say that, an ACC11E is probably my solution.

    I was going to use the fourth axis for a rotary axis, but that can probably waity a bit.

    One thing I have to check is if I have an empty slot free for the ACC11E.

    I have only a 4-slot bus plane as far as I could check it.
    I still have to receive the box.

    regards,


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    Lowboy motor control settings

    Hi there,
    I'm just working with a couple of lowboy stages, salvaged from the same spotter system... I've got the original motor drives, but as the controller was missing, I've opted to use a KFlop/KAnalog board (from Dynomotion)... While I do have the system operating reasonably well, I was hoping that I could trouble you for the PID values originally used in these machines? I realize they may not drop right in, but I'm hoping the original settings would give me a starting point to optimize the beast!

    Thanks so much,
    Brad


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    Hi Brad,

    Great minds think alike don't they?

    I was lucky enough to be able to salvage the complete computer system also and that is how I got involved with Delta Tau controllers.

    I am in the middle of a rebuild of my attick and that is where my router is sitting normally. So at the moment it is not in operating condition so I can not check my PID settings in my Turbo Umac controller system.

    What I could find where my original Variables that I salvaged from the PMAC-1 board (included here)
    Hopefully You can extract the PID settings from there.

    I suggest you download the Turbo-2 manual from the delta tau website to get the descriptions for the I-variables. Then you can find which variables does what for the PID settings.

    With my set-up I am able to use the demo software from Delta tau to run G-code files with full support of the g-codes.

    drop me a mail when you need more.

    regards from Belgium, Otto.
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    Hi Otto,
    Thank you so much - that really makes my day!

    Absolutely - the hardware out of those machines makes for a truly amazing motion system.... As long as you can make it work!

    No worries at all about finding your newer values - this is exactly what I was hoping for! I'll do some digging, and let you know how it goes.

    Thanks again,
    Brad

    (from across the pond in Canada)


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