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    Linear Carraige or Linear Motion Round Support Rails

    Hi All,

    Is one better than the other?

    Accuracy, price, load, etc.

    Trying to decide which one I should plan for in my design.

    newpatch


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    What are you referring to when you say "linear carriage"?
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    Sorry, should have been specific....

    These:

    CNCRouterParts

    The bearings from CNC Router Parts..

    vs these:

    linear bearing rail 2 SBR16-350mm support rails+4 SBR16UU blocks (with bearing) | eBay

    newpatch


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    I got some 20mm from Glacern tools, work pretty good, I use a little White Lithium Grease. No problems yet. 1 year old.


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    The 20mm Rails from Glacern are great, and the price is excellent. I cant speak for the CNCRP carriages but I think the round rails are going to be a better solution.

    Do bother with 16mm Round rails, they are really too small for a cnc router. You'll be surprised at how small the 20mm rails already are, I know I was.


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    Do bother with 16mm Round rails
    I think he means "Don't Bother".

    25mm or over is ok,the bigger the better and what you can afford?


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    Yes, I would also go with the 20mm rails. They are not much more expensive then the 16's, so that is a no brainier in MHO.

    Over all, I think the 20mm rails are a more professional solution then the CRP option, but the CRP makes building really easy.

    If you really wantto get nice, check out the HSR or SHS 20's from THK. You can find them used for decent prices, and can't go wrong there.


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    I was going with the 20mm for my project...the 16mm link was just for a visual.

    I would also go for the square rails but I'm thinking they are out of my budget. I've seen linear motion round rails on ebay for a good price, a set of 3, one for each axis. Some of the members here have purchased them and are happy...

    Things might change, but so far they are in my design which is a 2ft x 3ft cutting area machine....

    newpatch


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    To be honest there is no substantial difference between 16mm and 20mm really when you look at the diameter in your hand.

    You need at least 25mm to shy away from 16mm,an extra 4mm is nothing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HorridHenry View Post
    To be honest there is no substantial difference between 16mm and 20mm really when you look at the diameter in your hand.

    You need at least 25mm to shy away from 16mm,an extra 4mm is nothing.
    I would respectfully disagree. Area of a 16mm radius circle is 804mm^2. Move up to a 20mm rail it now becomes Pi(20)^2 which is over 1200 mm^2, roughly 50% more mass. Considering that bending strength is correlated with mass^2, the difference is exponential.

    I would agree that moving to a 25mm rail is much stronger yet (the same math applies), but there is a huge difference between a 16 and 20mm rail.

    The weak point, however, is not the rails, its the bearings. I am not sure if the 20mm bearings are 50% again stronger then the 16's, you will have to look at the ratings.


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    Sorry but equations don't fit into my vocabulrary when comparing size of round rail that are so close in size to each other,I like to see with my own eyes the difference.

    Get a caliper and find two disc,1 of 16mm and 1 of 20mm its hardly worth changing from 16mm to 20mm because the difference is minimal.


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    And the difference from 20mm to 25mm is just as minimal.

    If you look at the static load ratings for a single open carriage at VXB, you get:

    16mm = 1180N
    20mm = 1370N
    25mm = 1570N

    Using the 20mm shafts, you get 87% of the capacity of the 20mm shafts, for about half the price.
    Gerry

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