Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 12 of 32

Thread: Cutting Aluminium ecologically

  1. #1
    Registered
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    none
    Posts
    52
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0

    Cutting Aluminium ecologically

    Hi All,

    I am building a cnc tool. It include Chinese spindle (2.2 kW) min speed of 8000RPM.
    I would like to millaluminium. I read that 8000RPM is too high and I will have to use coolant at this RPM.

    I am really concerned about health issues therefor I am trying to avoid the use of cutting oil, which I think is not healthy.

    I thought to use pure water as coolant (Since water is not an issue for aluminium). Does any one use only pure water as coolant?

    Does anyone familiar with ecologically coolant for aluminium? Or other healthy technique to mill aluminium without cutting oil?


    Regards,
    Amir


  2. #2
    Registered
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    England
    Posts
    570
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    I am trying to avoid the use of cutting oil, which I think is not healthy.
    Are you drinking it,Amir?

    Since you have a 2.2kw spindle are you not using a VFD with it? this should get the motor right down speed wise.


  3. #3
    Registered
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    usa
    Posts
    120
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    We use just plain tap water in our horizontal bandsaw when cutting steel and aluminum.

    After we are done, we spray the vise and table with WD40 so as not to encourage rust.


  4. #4
    Registered
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    usa
    Posts
    120
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Also, you should note that many coolants are vegetable based and non toxic


  • #5
    Registered
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    none
    Posts
    52
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by HorridHenry View Post
    Are you drinking it,Amir?

    Since you have a 2.2kw spindle are you not using a VFD with it? this should get the motor right down speed wise.
    not drinking it () however there are steam and smoke from it.
    I do have VFD (x200 hitachi) and I can control the speed however the spec of the spindle is 8k -24k RPM so don't know the effect if i going bellow it.


  • #6
    Registered
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    none
    Posts
    52
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by vid1900 View Post
    We use just plain tap water in our horizontal bandsaw when cutting steel and aluminum.

    After we are done, we spray the vise and table with WD40 so as not to encourage rust.


    Also, you should note that many coolants are vegetable based and non toxic

    10x. Maybe I will try to spray only water and hopefully it will be enough.
    Do you have experience with the vegetable coolants? Can you recommend one?

    BTW does your machine is sealed except the table and spindle?


  • #7
    Registered
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    England
    Posts
    570
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    so don't know the effect if i going bellow it.
    Don't understand? that VFD has a digital readout for its speed.

    google speeds for cutting metal and this will give you an basic idea as to what speed you need to set the spindle to.

    Not the best link to direct you to but if your maths are good the equations are there.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speeds_and_feeds


  • #8
    Registered
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    158
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    91% isopropyl alcohol works for me.


  • #9
    Registered
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    none
    Posts
    52
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by HorridHenry View Post
    Don't understand? that VFD has a digital readout for its speed.

    google speeds for cutting metal and this will give you an basic idea as to what speed you need to set the spindle to.

    Not the best link to direct you to but if your maths are good the equations are there.
    Speeds and feeds - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I don't see specific speed. However, what I mean is the following - if I will go bellow 8000RPM maybe the force that the spindle induce for cut will be lower.

    Thanks for the link


  • #10
    Registered
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    2,946
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    I usually cut at 12k-13krpm, but at 60-70ipm and .125" doc for pocketing, and .063" profiling on a .250 endmill. As long as your setup is ridgid enough to take it. I find aluminum machines well as faster rpm as long as you match the speed to get the right sized chips.

    I was using WD-40 and such for aluminum, but I found a better, cheaper solution.... PAM High Heat cooking spray! It even smells like breakfast! Datron machines use methanol for coolant.


  • #11
    Registered
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,271
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Use smaller cutters they need more RPM to get the required SFM. 1/4 inch and smaller HSS or carbide should work. Take very light cuts and you should be fine.

    bob


  • #12
    Registered
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    none
    Posts
    52
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by rowbare View Post
    Use smaller cutters they need more RPM to get the required SFM. 1/4 inch and smaller HSS or carbide should work. Take very light cuts and you should be fine.

    bob
    I am not sure I understand.
    1/4 inch hss without coolant @ 8000RPM should be OK? 0.04" depth is OK?

    Thanks anyway for the info.


  • Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

    Similar Threads

    1. How Does CNC Routing Compare to Traditional Powertools Ecologically?
      By marklavin in forum Environmental & Alternate Energy
      Replies: 6
      Last Post: 11-04-2011, 08:51 PM
    2. Cutting Aluminium
      By djh82uk in forum Benchtop Machines
      Replies: 58
      Last Post: 06-26-2010, 06:48 PM
    3. Newbie- Help cutting aluminium
      By Codeman in forum General Metalwork Discussion
      Replies: 3
      Last Post: 04-10-2010, 06:49 PM
    4. Need A Quote- For aluminium cutting
      By btoes in forum Employment Opportunity
      Replies: 5
      Last Post: 04-15-2009, 06:31 AM
    5. Cutting Aluminium
      By ninewgt in forum General Metal Working Machines
      Replies: 3
      Last Post: 07-29-2003, 01:31 PM

    Posting Permissions


     


    About CNCzone.com

      We are the largest and most active discussion forum from DIY CNC Machines to the Cad/Cam software to run them. The site is 100% free to join and use, so join today!

    Follow us on

    Facebook Dribbble RSS Feed


    Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.