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    OK Im a Machining guy. I run the Engineering department in a machine shop and do a lot of the programming. Ive wanted a small machine for home for a while and well after joining this forum, Ive gotten the hair brained idea that I want to build one. Ive read the warnings to start small and cheap, so the 4 foot by 8 foot design is out Obviously I have access to machine tools so a nice sturdy aluminum gantry design is what I have in mind.

    I am hoping You folks will be willing to help me along the way. I am comfortable with the mechanical and programming parts of this endevour, but when it comes to the electronics and motors ... well lets just say I learned more in the last month reading these threads and links than I knew before. Translation, I know enough to be dangerous

    Any ways, Im thinking travels:

    X= 2 ft.
    Y= 3-4 ft.
    Z= Approx. 10 in.

    I want to be able to cut aluminum and wood.

    I came up with some Aluminum Extrusion that was scrapped due to not meeting specifications. It is a custom extrusion that measures 4.5" square with top and bottom walls .75" thick and side walls that are .19" thick. I figure to build the frame and some of the gantry/column from this.

    I am in the process of accquiring pairs of linear guides for XY and Z.

    I have an old 486 /66 PC that 3 years ago just needed a hard drive (hopefully thats still the case). I intend to run TurboCNC on this.

    I have done a preliminary arrangement layout, but Im waiting for the guides to lock in the dimensions. When I get them I will post the plans.

    Ive done some reading and as of now Ive concluded Servos are the way to go if I want some power and speed.

    Given my schedule (and budget), I expect this project to last into the fall.

    I would like to thank those who have posted their designs and experiences as they have really helped me so far.
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    Hey sounds good. You will do fine. keep posting and we will try to help as much as we can!

    Eric
    I wish it wouldn't crash.


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    Were behind you 100 %
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    OK,

    SO Im working on getting the linear guides and my preliminary arrangement is in order. I think Im going to decrease the Z axis target travel a bit probably 6-8 inches. in favor of rigity and weight considerations.

    Ive done some more research on the drives and motors and Ive concluded that I will try to find some used servo's and use Gecko 320's. From what Ive read so far, it sounds like these are pretty flexible and will do what I want.

    Ive located some used Servos that unfortunately I have limited info on. What I have so far:

    They were manufactured in 1989.
    They are rated 5 amps / 43 Volts / 200 Watts
    5V DC 200 c/t resolution Encoders Are Attached.

    QUESTIONS:

    1. I'm assuming these are brushed motors (is this a mistake ?)
    2. Do these sound reasonable for the machine I am planning.
    3. Do you see any problems with integrating these components ?

    I am trying to get more specs on the motor, but no luck yet.

    Thanks
    Dave
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    If they are indeed brushed I think they should work great.

    Eric
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    If you plan to use the motors with a G320 then you need to make SURE that they ARE brushed! The motor specs sound great! Good luck finding used Gecko drives. I have not seen any but I never really looked before
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    Hi Dave,

    I run the engineering department in a machine shop in Dayton, Ohio. I too am familiar with machining and programming, but needed some help on the electronics (still need that help).


    I started my machine a year ago. Got my steppers running first because I knew I could do the design/machining on the mill.

    Servo's are something I hope to move up to soon.

    Good luck.
    Bill


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    Thanks Bill,

    Jeff,

    I probably wasnt clear in my post. My thoughts were to get used mechanical parts and servos, but buy the geckos and all the stuff that will go in the control box new. I figure everything in that box is where I would likely have the most problem, so new components with documentation will give me the best start. On the otherh and if I blow up $400 worth of Geckos, I wont be a happy camper either.

    Actually, your website convinced me the Geckos were the way to go and I think that will be money well spent since they sound like they leave some easy options for up grading the servos or the Turbo CNC if that becomes neccessary down the road.

    Still unable to get additional specs, but spoke with a technician at a repair shop who knows the motors and he confirmed they are brush motors. Looks like the price may be right.
    Last edited by CAMmando; 06-23-2003 at 04:33 PM.
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    I have another question.

    I wasnt going to worry about the electronics stuff for a while, but I came across a Power supply and Im wondering if it can be made to work with the motors Ive found.

    Again the motors are rated 43 VDC / 5 amps each.

    The Power Supply is rated at 48 VDC / 31 Amps with an input voltage of 115/120 VAC. It is enclosed in a case and appears to be from some sort of telecommunications system. I was thinking I could leave this as it is and were it into a homade control box that just has the Geckos in it.

    1. Is this rediculously over sized for the application ? The price is right. And you cant have too much power ... right ?? Dave

    2. I havent seen Transformers or powersupplies rated specifically at 43 volts. Is 48 V. OK ? I thought I saw +/- 5% in the motor specs (dont have them with me at the moment) Do I need to drop the voltage down from 48 V ? If so, What is the easiest way to do that ?

    Thanks Again, Dave
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    Yes, Your motors will accept a range of voltage. They were just speced at 43VDC. That supply sounds good to me.
    Thanks

    Jeff Davis (HomeCNC)
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    I think at the gecko site it says the power supply can be 5 volts over the rated motor voltage.

    Eric
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    Wow !

    You guys are fast.

    I really, realllllllly apreciate the help.



    Thanks
    Dave

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