CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > WoodWorking Machines > DIY-CNC Router Table Machines


DIY-CNC Router Table Machines Discuss the building of home-made CNC Router tables here!


This forum is sponsored by:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Ban this user!
Old 11-30-2009, 01:23 PM
Schweinhund227's Avatar  
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 32
Schweinhund227 is on a distinguished road
Cool Electrocraft PMDC servo ID ? Plz !

Hello all !

I need help !

I put my hands on a Used but in good condition Electrocraft PMDC servo motor from Al the Man ... well Now I want to power it up !

I have eyeballed this product ! from KB ! and was wondering if it could do the trick ??

Here is my Servo ID Plate !
it very plain !!! and any help Id this motor would be welcome...

as I need to find the HP this baby can deliver !

it comes with a Tach ! so I guess this will feed Speed feedback to the speed controler ? I'm new to this ! but I'm willing to play !!!

I found an Info sheet from Electrocraft Legacy Catalogue and was wondering if it could be the one for my Motor ? it's for a G700 series


Let me know !!!

Norm

out !

Last edited by Schweinhund227; 11-30-2009 at 02:06 PM.
Reply With Quote

  #2   Ban this user!
Old 11-30-2009, 01:54 PM
jalessi's Avatar  
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: U.S.A.
Posts: 3,154
jalessi is on a distinguished road
Thumbs up

Norm,

Why not ask Al? He knows these like the back of his hand.

Jeff...
__________________
Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish.
Reply With Quote

  #3  
Old 11-30-2009, 02:10 PM
Al_The_Man's Avatar
Community Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 16,536
Al_The_Man is on a distinguished road
Buy me a Beer?

I think I mentioned this has a terminal voltage of around 60vdc, IIRC.
I found this out by empirical test.
The KB should run it OK, but you will have to restrict it from max output, put a resistor in series with the pot or method used to control the speed in order it does not over speed on full 90vdc, I would not run it over 2500~3000 rpm to be on the safe side.
Unfortunately I believe the plate info is OEM part numbers which makes it difficult to pin down exact specs.
Al.
__________________
CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Machine Design.
“Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
Albert E.
Reply With Quote

  #4   Ban this user!
Old 11-30-2009, 08:20 PM
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 5
rgkerber is on a distinguished road

I am trying to get a print for you for this motor. I think Al is right that this motor is designed to run at only 60VDC. It will run with a 90VDC drive but it will eventually pit the commutator on the armature.

I'll let you know what I come up with.

Email me with any questions

Rob Kerber
VP/GM Motion
ElectroCraft
rkerber@electrocraft.com
Reply With Quote

  #5   Ban this user!
Old 11-30-2009, 11:42 PM
Schweinhund227's Avatar  
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 32
Schweinhund227 is on a distinguished road

Thanks Guys....

So... I am not too far off on my Driver selection...

I'll try to find one... near 70 or 80V and look for Big Resistors....


And another question ! Under Electrical Data in the Catalogue image...
under A and B what is the meaning of those letters ?

for each variant.... has 2 columns A + B ?
and the Tachometers... Do I have to do a Imperial Measurement on the output of the tach...or can I measure the impedance ! and Gestimate ?

and I'll try not to fry the motor...

Al would not be impress !



and thank you for looking for that Data Sheet for this Motor....

Take care ALL ~

Norm

OUT !
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #6  
Old 12-01-2009, 09:02 AM
Al_The_Man's Avatar
Community Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 16,536
Al_The_Man is on a distinguished road
Buy me a Beer?

The Tach output is a generated DC voltage proportional to rpm, usually indicated in v/1000rpm.
You can easily measure this at a given speed.
Don't put any resistors in series with the motor, the one I indicated would go in series on the high end of a control potentiometer for example.
Also there are quite a few A-M-C servo controllers on ebay that can be run in the velocity mode for spindles.
Al.
__________________
CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Machine Design.
“Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
Albert E.
Reply With Quote

  #7   Ban this user!
Old 12-01-2009, 01:17 PM
Schweinhund227's Avatar  
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 32
Schweinhund227 is on a distinguished road

Thank you AL !

I see your point ! about the Tach ! and about the Resistor... on the Pot !

what about the Horse Power Resistor... ??? on that KB Drive ?

They come in all Flavours...

the A M C drivers... well !!! are out of my League ! 300$ ouchie !

I don't need anything fancy !!! but controlabe via Mach 3 !!! with analogue ref. voltage from the Tach as a Spindle Speed Control Accel and Decel !

are Breaking Resistors required ? or a controlled Decel time good enough ?


Sorry for the Many questions but I don't want to Burn anything...

ie. when the Servo is Free spining... and feeding EMF back into my board !

so much to learn so little time !!!


Norm

out !
Reply With Quote

  #8  
Old 12-01-2009, 01:34 PM
Al_The_Man's Avatar
Community Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 16,536
Al_The_Man is on a distinguished road
Buy me a Beer?

I would go with a 1/2hp value to begin with. The worst case scenario is you would go into current limiting earlier, but I don't think that will happen.
Al.
__________________
CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Machine Design.
“Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
Albert E.
Reply With Quote

Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Need Help!- Electrocraft BRU 105 Servo drive Schematic lekridge Want To Buy...Need help! 8 03-27-2009 03:14 AM
Electrocraft servo - How do they work? Chris64 Servo Motors and Drives 6 10-05-2006 10:12 AM
Electrocraft Servo 0660-12-031 bemfarmer Servo Motors and Drives 0 09-03-2006 05:11 PM
Looking for a source for PMDC servo motors bgolash Servo Motors and Drives 4 01-31-2006 03:26 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:08 AM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361