Water Cooled Spindle Step by Step

[jeffrey001]

Hi, just got my Water cooled spindle today.

Could someone simplify the process in a step by step way.

The motor is a 2.2Kw with matched inverter

The motor has only 3 pins, 1, 2 and 3 ,no ground connection

Does the inverter needs a 12v supply

Do I need to connect the 220v line after everything have been hooked up.

Thanks as always for any help, Jeff

[Kipper]

Originally Posted by jeffrey001 Hi, just got my Water cooled spindle today. Could someone simplify the process in a step by step way. The motor is a 2.2Kw with matched inverter The motor has only 3 pins, 1, 2 and 3 ,no ground connection Does the inverter needs a 12v supply Do I need to connect the 220v line after everything have been hooked up. Thanks as always for any help, Jeff

Did you not get a wiring diagram...or picture...or anything you could share?

Just engaging my telepathetic sensory organ.....Contact made..........What's with the Elk?

[jeffrey001]

This is a picture of spindle and inverter

Come from this Ebay seller

love-happyshopping

[stevespo]

Jeff, there are a couple of ongoing discussions about setup/configuration of this spindle.

This is specific to the VFD you have (I have it too). There are copies of the complete documentation, which is very helpful.

Help with Huanyang HY02D223B

This is more generic, but still worth reading -

Cheap 1500W Chinese spindle, experiences?

I think there are a couple more, but you'd have to search around for them.

Steve

[analogman]

Take a look in this forum from last week for a note on chinese spindles. I posted exactly what you need to get going.

[jeffrey001]

So, if I understand well, hook up the two wire (hot + neutral) for the 220v.

After that, will be able to program my VFD, thought I needed some 12 or 24 volts to program it and then connect to the 220v.

Will try after my electrician get me a outlet with 220v near my router.

Jeff

[Kipper]

Originally Posted by jeffrey001 So, if I understand well, hook up the two wire (hot + neutral) for the 220v. After that, will be able to program my VFD, thought I needed some 12 or 24 volts to program it and then connect to the 220v. Will try after my electrician get me a outlet with 220v near my router. Jeff

You may have a 0-10V for speed control.

[analogman]

No you DO NOT need any 10-24V to program the VFD. That is an OPTION if you want to control it from your control software (like MACH3).

Start simple.

1. hook up the drive to the VFD
2. hook up the 220VAC to the VFD
3. program the VFD
4. start routing

See the other thread for the details of these steps.

After you get it going and you want to get fancy and run it through your control software, then you will need to purchase a driver board, and do some re-programming and some wiring - much more complex.

Start simple.

[stevespo]

The VFD supplies 24VDC (or is it 12VDC, can't remember) for use with an external switch to turn the spindle on and control direction (FOR and REV). I documented this in the Huanyang thread and there is a good diagram in the documentation. I am finding this very handy.

I have not (yet) played around with controlling spindle speed as that does require a separate board, and I believe, an external 0-10VDC signal to determine the speed. AllyD has some info posted in the same thread about what's required to make this work.

FYI: I would also mention that the Huanyang VFD from my vendor (linearmotionbearings2008) came pre-configured to work in North America. I didn't have to adjust any settings to get it running. Actually there was one setting to get the RPM displayed correctly, but the unit was 100% operational when power was applied. Your mileage may vary.

Steve

[mhasting2004]

Most of the settings are correct and you will, most likely, get it running "out of the box" However You really should go through all the settings amd understand them before pushing the run button. MAgic smoke is real hard to reinsert.

One parameter in particular you should check is PD142 (rated motor current) and set it to your motor spec which in my case was 7.5 while the default was 11 (max of the VFD)

Now having this set too high will not stop your spindle running it will however cook it if you apply a large load to the motor while cutting as it will ramp up to this max..... smoke escape!

There is another thread on an Aussie woodworking forum where I've posted my findings and settings.

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=96380
Cheers

[jeffrey001]

So, if I understand well your posting on the woodworking forum, I should feed the 220v to the VFD, do some programming, and then after this is all done, connect the motor to the VFD, is that right.

Thanks for your help, this is greatly appreciated, Jeff

[mhasting2004]

Hi Jeffrey

I would hook up the spindle but I would not push the run button until the improtant bits are set. IE motor rated voltage and current.

The VFD has alot of internal protection so if you push it too hard like trying to stop reall fast without a braking resistor it will detect an over voltage/current and shut down letting the spindle coast to a stop. Its pretty idiot proof just remember to push the stop button after an fault to get it to clear.

I tend to read the whole manual once... even if it makes little sense the first time, then go back thru it and start playing.

Some settings have little or no effect while others like max current are there to protect your motor. There is a bunch of stuff about PID loops which mean nothing if you don't have a tacho for example. Likewise DC braking is not really a feature you are going to need and is only active for 10hz down (so 600 rpm)

If you skim thru the parameters it will become obvious which sets you can ignore and which ones you may want to play with.

Another thing that has been mentioned by others is that heat from the motor is negligable under no load conditions.... except when you are running it real slow. I run mine for short burst while testiog without water be cause its convienient and I have seen how little heat I was getting under normal conditions.

Just remember taht any posts for people outside north america will be running 220vac 50hz or even 380 3phase


Cheers

Mark