CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > WoodWorking Machines > DIY-CNC Router Table Machines


DIY-CNC Router Table Machines Discuss the building of home-made CNC Router tables here!


This forum is sponsored by:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Ban this user!
Old 08-27-2007, 05:46 AM
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: UAE
Age: 31
Posts: 42
hpghost is on a distinguished road
I hate MDF!!!!

hi guys,

I need advises on MDF cutting!

I have an home made CNC with a Kress 1050 mill and 10mm diam 2 fluttes cutter.

I was cutting MDF at 5mm depth and 1000mm/min feed.

the Kress 1050 was at 3/6 speed (ie 12000rpm I beleive).

It is cutting with so much noize and the kress charbons finally burnt after 8hrs.

I saw that the glow inside the kress was important means that the motor was pushing too much but felt it would survive...

i tried slower feed, then the MDF was burning and I also tried increase Kress rpm and same result.

are the passes too DEEP for this machine? feed too high? or RPM pb?

please help...usually no issues with other materials even aluminium but MDF seems different!

thanks in advance for your replies guys!
Reply With Quote

  #2   Ban this user!
Old 08-27-2007, 09:32 AM
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 34
sandiegocadcam is on a distinguished road

From my personal experience with cutting MDF, I have found that using slower rpm's is the ticket. You won't get much dust and your tools will last longer since that edges are not "rubbing" the material. Try to use a down cut spiral mill if possible. I have used this method numerous times while I was making bucks for thermal forming.
__________________
San Diego CADCAM
Mastercam Dealer
Reply With Quote

  #3   Ban this user!
Old 08-27-2007, 09:39 AM
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: UAE
Age: 31
Posts: 42
hpghost is on a distinguished road

is the other settings ok? the problem is that with the lower rpm the Kress was getting too hot which I beleive means that it was asked for more torque than normal one.

I am afraid that lowering torque might not be enough...don t you think so?
Reply With Quote

  #4   Ban this user!
Old 08-27-2007, 09:45 AM
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 34
sandiegocadcam is on a distinguished road

what is your depth of cut? that is the key. if you are doing full, tool width cuts, simply back off the depth. if your software allows for cases when using full tool diameter cuts, try a trochadial method of cutting when the tool engages full width cuts.
__________________
San Diego CADCAM
Mastercam Dealer
Reply With Quote

  #5   Ban this user!
Old 08-27-2007, 09:56 AM
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: UAE
Age: 31
Posts: 42
hpghost is on a distinguished road

as mentioned, the depth is 5mm.
the first cut is of course plain diameter in the material then from 2nd onwards it is 50% diam tool.

the cut method is opposite
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #6   Ban this user!
Old 08-27-2007, 10:13 AM
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 34
sandiegocadcam is on a distinguished road

my apologies. i forgot you post the feeds. i am not familiar with the type of spindle you are using, but to me, it simply sounds like that is a very weak spindle. 5mm is not deep at all. i have a small K2 i just purchased just to see how things tick with a small machine and i loaded a dremel tool on it and was plowing thru .750 plywood with an 1/8 endmill.
__________________
San Diego CADCAM
Mastercam Dealer
Reply With Quote

  #7   Ban this user!
Old 08-27-2007, 10:19 AM
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: UAE
Age: 31
Posts: 42
hpghost is on a distinguished road

I use this:
http://www.kress-elektrik.de/en/prod...ct.php?id=3319

in fact this is honestly a good tool...in ply I can cut 1cm deep with the same setting...
Reply With Quote

  #8   Ban this user!
Old 08-27-2007, 10:26 AM
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 34
sandiegocadcam is on a distinguished road

i cant see anything wrong then. my gut feeling is leaning back to the spindle itself. how are you holding a 10mm bit in a spindle that is made for a 8mm max size? i know it can be done, but if you look at the technical data, that milling head is only rated for 8mm.
__________________
San Diego CADCAM
Mastercam Dealer
Reply With Quote

  #9   Ban this user!
Old 08-27-2007, 10:51 AM
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Norway
Age: 33
Posts: 97
tahustvedt is on a distinguished road

Originally Posted by sandiegocadcam View Post
i cant see anything wrong then. my gut feeling is leaning back to the spindle itself. how are you holding a 10mm bit in a spindle that is made for a 8mm max size? i know it can be done, but if you look at the technical data, that milling head is only rated for 8mm.
Kress can supply collets from 1 mm up to 10 mm i believe.
Reply With Quote

  #10   Ban this user!
Old 08-27-2007, 11:04 AM
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 34
sandiegocadcam is on a distinguished road

the below is what i found in the tech sheet listed for his router:



8 mm clamping jaw
Art. No. 91482001

for OF 6990 E, FM 6990 E, FM 6955, 1050 FME, 800 FME, 530 FME
__________________
San Diego CADCAM
Mastercam Dealer
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #11   Ban this user!
Old 08-27-2007, 11:13 AM
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: UAE
Age: 31
Posts: 42
hpghost is on a distinguished road

you are right guys the standard is 8mmm but thanks god there are some guys producing other collets:

http://cnc-plus.de/index.php?cat=c10...-und-ISEL.html

this is also why I like this tool.. have 8mm, 1/4", 1/6" and 10mm with me so I can use a lots of differents cutters!
Reply With Quote

  #12   Ban this user!
Old 08-27-2007, 11:23 AM
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 34
sandiegocadcam is on a distinguished road

that actually sounds pretty cool. i have a 892 PC now with only two collets. i might look at changing over to the Kress if you get your issue figured out.
__________________
San Diego CADCAM
Mastercam Dealer
Reply With Quote

Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Proprietary- ooh I hate that word mikkojay Servo Motors and Drives 13 03-08-2009 09:58 PM
Why is EVERYTHING so difficult?!? (meshcam / SW hate) ClemsonGirl General CNC (Mill and Lathe) Control Software (NC) 8 04-22-2008 11:04 PM
Your gonna hate me for this SMT-OPERATOR RC Robotics & Autonomous Robots 11 05-29-2007 03:17 PM
I need an oil dispensor. Hate little cans. Swami General Metalwork Discussion 10 12-13-2004 11:56 PM
Dang! I hate it when..... HomeCNC Forum Questions or Problems 7 06-04-2003 03:14 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:02 AM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361