CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > WoodWorking Machines > DIY-CNC Router Table Machines


DIY-CNC Router Table Machines Discuss the building of home-made CNC Router tables here!


This forum is sponsored by:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Ban this user!
Old 04-19-2004, 03:55 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Scotland, UK
Posts: 39
Ali Kat is on a distinguished road
The birth of "Baby"

Hello All,
Well it's time to stop lurking around the forums and bring you the news of "Baby's" arrival !!
The photo below is proof of my endevours to create a machine that will (hopefully)do what I tell it without backchat, tears or arguments!
As you will see it's not the biggest thing in the CNC world but it's my beautiful little baby and it's currently getting more attention than mere metal really deserves.
The Ali Baby evolved from a desire to replicate the amazing work that has been done by many of you guys out there but within the confines of a limited budget with additional help from my stockpile of "essential spares" (known to her who rules as Junk).
So here she is
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	001.jpg‎
Views:	1475
Size:	99.8 KB
ID:	2127  
Reply With Quote

  #2   Ban this user!
Old 04-19-2004, 04:03 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Scotland, UK
Posts: 39
Ali Kat is on a distinguished road
More on Baby

Ebay has been a prime shopping area and has yielded Bosch aluminium offcuts, stepper motors, linear rails and other bits and bobs. When all of this was cast upon the bench some dimensions started to appear. The rails dictated the x axiz length (I didn't fancy cutting them and I didn't have any longer ones) at 575mm and the ballscrew assembly meant a moving table was the style that would make maximum use of both items. A width of 300mm was chosen because its a nice round figure.

So far I've:
1) milled the top of the 45 x 90 extrusions to accept the 12mm linear rails
2) drilled and tapped 46 off 3mm holes in 3/4 x 1/8 brass bar to act as long "T" nuts inside the extrusions for the rails
3) machined two aluminium end plates at 300mm x 100mm x 15mm
4) threaded the ends of four 10mm bright mild steel bars which run through the extrusions
5) fabricated a saddle plate that holds the ballscrew fixed bearing / motor mount.
6) bolted it all together to check for gremlins.

I set the whole thing up on the table of the miller and put a clock across the rails and was quite pleased to find .05mm variation on parallelism.
Just for fun I hooked up the motor to the controller and ran it back and forth a few times with no nasty noises. I must get on and make the sub table next
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	002.jpg‎
Views:	1191
Size:	89.8 KB
ID:	2128  

Last edited by Ali Kat; 04-19-2004 at 04:31 PM.
Reply With Quote

  #3   Ban this user!
Old 04-19-2004, 04:11 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Scotland, UK
Posts: 39
Ali Kat is on a distinguished road
Baby's strength

Bosch offer a fancy (read expensive) screw which is used to connect to the end of their extrusions. It taps it's own thread and sounds like a good idea. Well I bought a small bag and tried it out but wasn't convinced that they would last so I decided to ensure that at least the end plates won't fall off.
In the pic below you will see the end of a 25" length of 10mm (i'm trying to be diplomatic / cosmopolitan with my measurment references) bright mild steel bar which has been threaded at both ends. This is passed through the two holes in each extrusion and the end plates fitted. Nyloc nuts pull everything together. The base is now extremely rigid!!!!
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	003.jpg‎
Views:	1192
Size:	89.1 KB
ID:	2129  
Reply With Quote

  #4   Ban this user!
Old 04-19-2004, 04:28 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Scotland, UK
Posts: 39
Ali Kat is on a distinguished road
Before you ask..........

It's all well and good having a nice strong x axis but what about the rest I hear you all say?
Well I never did take tech drawing or metal work at school so things tend to get done a bit different around here. I can use autocad to a degree and this helps when I want to draw out things and take measurements for machining purposes. However, basic design is usually done on bits of paper, backs of envelopes etc. So far we know it will have a moving table and the X, Y envelope should be about 300mm x 250mm. The Y axis will be mounted on a fixed gantry which attaches to the slots on the outer sides of the X axis extrusions. The bearing arrangement has not been finalised for Y axis yet as I'm considering THK type linear rails (I've got some odd sizes that I might be able to cobble something out of) or 10mm ground shafting as I have some phosphor bronze bushes of 10mm ID or perhaps a length of Igus twin shaft rail with plastic bushes.
Spindle will probably be a remote Dremel with a fex shaft and hand piece attached to the z axis. The Z axis is even further away from the manufacturing stage although I do have a nifty little micro slide made by Anorad Corp (USA). the only problem is the thread which is 40 TPI and may cause problems when mixed with metric ballscrews.
Controller will be either a NC Step product or SMC 1500 (both of German origin). I have both cards and they appear to work fine although the SMC uses it's own version of PCNC to control it.
Motors will be NEMA 23 size selected from my box of "previously owned electrical equipment"
Joking aside, I have spent a long time reading the successes and failures of the amateur CNC builder and have yearned to join the gang. This might be a bit "Heath Robinson" in concept, design and construction but I'm enjoying myself and would welcome any feedback from those that have been present at the birth.
Thanks to all for the encouragement to get me going.
N

Last edited by Ali Kat; 04-19-2004 at 04:35 PM.
Reply With Quote

  #5  
Old 04-19-2004, 06:40 PM
Mr.Chips's Avatar
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: USA Tucson AZ
Posts: 1,239
Mr.Chips is on a distinguished road

Congratulations on your new addition. And thanks for the baby pictures. Keep them coming so we can keep track of her progress.

Hager
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #6   Ban this user!
Old 04-19-2004, 06:41 PM
DR-Motion's Avatar  
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Ontario,Canada
Posts: 120
DR-Motion is on a distinguished road

Hi Ali Kat,

Congrats, The biggest hurdle faced by anyone in building a cnc machine is... overcoming the analysis paralysis and getting started.

Now that you're committed, your creative mind can now come up with all sorts of logical reasons as to why you should continue to spend excessive amounts of time, effort and money in its completion.

This will, of course, be frowned upon by "she who must be listened to."

But now you're a real man who has combined pieces of junk to create a real machine that can manipulate reality... you are the boss... so the first thing you must do when this masterpiece is completed is to machine something ornamental and personal with romantic engravings and such... and eventually she will talk to you again.

Seriously, your practical, modular approach will serve you well and I'm certain everyone will want to follow Ali Baby's growth.

regards Gary
__________________
embrace enthusiasm to accomplish the task
Gary Davies... www.durhamrobotics.com
Reply With Quote

  #7   Ban this user!
Old 04-19-2004, 08:19 PM
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 1,147
vacpress is on a distinguished road

keep putting up pics! i really like your design so far..

dont stop the pictures!


we care.. really.
__________________
Design & Development
My Portfolio: www.robertguyser.com | CAD Blog I Contribute to: http://www.jeffcad.info
Reply With Quote

  #8  
Old 04-20-2004, 07:29 AM
High Seas's Avatar
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Malaysia/Australia/NZ/USA
Age: 62
Posts: 1,124
High Seas is on a distinguished road

Ali Kat - nice baby - give him/her/it a name yet?
No detailed 3d CAD drawings to start with either. Guess that then fits into the category of "sculpting?"
cheers - Jim
__________________
Experience is the BEST Teacher. Is that why it usually arrives in a shower of sparks, flash of light, loud bang, a cloud of smoke, AND -- a BILL to pay? You usually get it -- just after you need it.
Reply With Quote

  #9   Ban this user!
Old 04-20-2004, 01:56 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Scotland, UK
Posts: 39
Ali Kat is on a distinguished road
Bad day with Baby!!

Went to make the saddle / sub table today - you know, the piece that sits across the linear slide carriages. Well I got the mill set up and a piece of plate clamped down and off we went. Things were going well until I got greedy and took a bigger cut than i should have - yes, you guessed - I pushed the plate all over the place. So there I was with a beautiful face milled paper weight and a bad temper
Started again and this time it went well. Came to bolt it all up and it was still looking good. In fact I was quite pleased as I was doing all the referencing using the dials as the s/h DRO that I've ordered is still somewhere between me and it's sender!!! Holes all lined up between saddle and blocks, slide movement was good but then I decided to place the assembly back on the X-axis base. Uh oh, I appear to be out by a smidgen (UK expression for "small amount"). It seems like something needs a bit more tolerance. So off we went again machining the slots for the rails but this time using a 13mm cutter for the 12mm rails instead of a 12mm cutter. Lo and behold, it looks better - things actually fit now

Sorry there's no pics but I need to go and get cleaned up and hide any evidence of aluminium shavings from "HWMBO" (her who must be obeyed).
Got my 8-32 cap head screws today to mount the motor to the ballscrew - the sooner the whole world goes metric the better What on earth is a 8-32 when it's at home???
I have more bolts than a lightning storm but not a single one that would fit that mount so once again RS components profit margin rose as yours truly had to give in and pay up. I know, I know you guys in the States have cupboards full of them. So next time any of you come to Scotland to play golf or whatever then bring me a couple of hand fulls of assorted American attachment fixings!!
I'll try and post some more pics tomorrow if I get anywhere.
Cheers
N
PS Baby doesn't have a name yet - might need some help here.
Reply With Quote

Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:54 AM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361