CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > WoodWorking Machines > DIY-CNC Router Table Machines


DIY-CNC Router Table Machines Discuss the building of home-made CNC Router tables here!


This forum is sponsored by:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Ban this user!
Old 01-26-2007, 01:19 AM
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Thailand
Posts: 51
chinsettawong is on a distinguished road
Cool Can a wood router cut aluminium?

Has anybody tried to cut aluminium using a wood router? What kind of router head should be used and what feed rate speed is suitable?
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #2   Ban this user!
Old 01-26-2007, 02:57 AM
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Norway
Posts: 31
joakim is on a distinguished road

Hi, im new at this and i didnt build a machine, yet.

As far as i know, you need high speed. 28.000 rpm or something like that.
And you also need cooling liquid, alcohol... so i guess a wood router is not
the best to use.

But maybe im wrong, if somone else has a different opinion i'd also like to know.
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #3   Ban this user!
Old 01-26-2007, 08:31 AM
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Denmark
Posts: 569
Guldberg is on a distinguished road

The other way around, you commenly need lower speed than a router will give you. But yes, at the lowest setting, usually around 10-14k rpm it can be done, just take small cuts, a step depth at 0.3mm and a feedrate 800-1000mm/min
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #4   Ban this user!
Old 01-26-2007, 11:48 AM
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 1,407
martinw is on a distinguished road

Originally Posted by chinsettawong View Post
Has anybody tried to cut aluminium using a wood router? What kind of router head should be used and what feed rate speed is suitable?
Dear chinsettawong,

I have used a standard hand-held wood router on aluminium. Here in the UK, a company called Trend make a range of router cutters suitable for aluminium. The cutters are either tungsten carbide tipped, solid carbide, or a special type of high speed steel. There are cutters for slotting, grooving, profiling and surface milling.

I've used 18mm diameter surface milling cutters at about 18000 rpm, and small
diameter profiling cutters at about 15000rpm.

When surface milling, take really shallow depth cuts, say 0.15 mm. When profiling also take very light cuts. For a cutting compound, I use a paste wax. The advantage of paste wax over liquids is that you do not get sprayed when working.

Please use eye protection. A bit of aluminium swarf in your eye hurts. I know!

Good luck

Martin
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #5   Ban this user!
Old 01-26-2007, 12:12 PM
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Thailand
Posts: 51
chinsettawong is on a distinguished road
Smile

Thanks for the replies. I am using a 30,000 rpm Makita router. I will try to cut following your advices.
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #6   Ban this user!
Old 01-28-2007, 07:05 AM
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: usa
Posts: 157
jsage is on a distinguished road

Nice router, sounds like you might need to modify the router to allow variable speed (seen it mentioned on the site). Just a guess but the slower speed will keep the softer aluminum from getting a bit gummy from the friction. Carbide might lessen the problem. I've ground aluminum and it can get a bit sloppy.
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #7  
Old 01-28-2007, 08:57 AM
ger21's Avatar
Community Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Shelby Twp, MI....USA
Posts: 19,574
ger21 is on a distinguished road
Buy me a Beer?

www.onsrud.com as a full line of router bits for cutting aluminum.
__________________
Gerry

Mach3 2010 Screenset
http://home.comcast.net/~cncwoodworker/2010.html

(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #8   Ban this user!
Old 01-28-2007, 09:00 AM
LeeWay's Avatar  
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 2,305
LeeWay is on a distinguished road

Not all aluminum nor all routers are created equally. I cut aluminum of different types all the time. The 5000 series stuff while hard, it gummy and requires more lube. I usually just rub candle wax when I do it by hand. In my CNC router, I often cut 6000 series stuff using W-D 40 every so often and I use a router speed controller to reduce the speed just a tad. Probably running down around 12 to 14 thousand rpm. Solid carbide are the best. They will last the longest and are very heat tolerable. You don't actually need a mister or pump. Just keep it lubed up and you will have good results. If you know what you are buying, you can buy the easy machining stuff. It's normally also the best priced depending...
__________________
Lee
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #9   Ban this user!
Old 01-29-2007, 08:03 PM
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: USA
Posts: 93
routerman is on a distinguished road

My Larken router cuts aluminum real good. I run a 1/4" carbide cutter at 16000 rpm. I run at about 30" per min and I've cut up to 1/2" plate, usually about .18" per pass with a mister.
I get a very good edge finish. But you need to cut 6061 grade.
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #10   Ban this user!
Old 02-01-2007, 02:19 AM
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 95
simso is on a distinguished road

I've cut all'y with the cnc router, trick is as low rpm as you can go and shallow passess. I have a Industrial mill at home as well and it turns at about 600rpm, when you go faster the flutes tend to gum up by the ally melting and not clearing properly. If you run a stream of coolant on the mill you can cut depths of about 13mm per pass, without coolant about 4mm per pass. On the router about .5mm per pass with wd40 as lube.
So Low speed, Shallow passes and lube is your answer
Steve
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #11   Ban this user!
Old 02-01-2007, 11:00 AM
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: usa
Posts: 43
SCHootie is on a distinguished road

What would be the minimum HP rating of the router to be used for Al.
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #12   Ban this user!
Old 02-01-2007, 11:21 AM
braidmeister's Avatar  
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 203
braidmeister is an unknown quantity at this point

I made this double sided impeller for a friend on my router. Toolpaths generated in ArtCAM Pro. ShopBot Alpha with 5hp Columbo spindle. Standard carbide endmills. Compressed air cooling.

-B
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Side2035.jpg‎
Views:	841
Size:	414.7 KB
ID:	30735   Click image for larger version

Name:	Side2064.jpg‎
Views:	802
Size:	313.4 KB
ID:	30736  
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
My aluminium router (it begins) matth CNC Wood Router Project Log 36 01-21-2007 04:21 PM
120x240cm(work area) Router Table - steel/aluminium Goose80 DIY-CNC Router Table Machines 9 12-13-2006 04:43 PM
This router bit for aluminium? or not? Apples DIY-CNC Router Table Machines 3 09-10-2006 08:20 AM
Router bits. ( Aluminium veneer ) ynneb DIY-CNC Router Table Machines 17 05-12-2004 11:49 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:32 AM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353