CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > WoodWorking Machines > DIY-CNC Router Table Machines


DIY-CNC Router Table Machines Discuss the building of home-made CNC Router tables here!


This forum is sponsored by:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Ban this user!
Old 05-23-2005, 11:02 PM
PEU's Avatar
PEU PEU is offline
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Buenos Aires - Argentina (I like Ribs)
Age: 44
Posts: 921
PEU is on a distinguished road
Joining two THK SHS15 rails

I purchased last week a lot of 8 THK SHS15C1SS rails (12.5" long each) with 1 block each and I was wondering if joining two rails to make a longer one is feasible.



This is picture of the desired configuration, the design will be a moving X table, fixed Y bridge, movable Z.

Drawing in its early stage using THK & 8020 provided solidworks models

Thanks


Pablo
Reply With Quote

  #2   Ban this user!
Old 05-24-2005, 12:48 AM
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: US
Posts: 8
HacknHew is on a distinguished road

It'll work as long as you take care to match up the ends of each mating rail, and also stagger the joints between each rail assembly so that each bearing block doesn't pass over a joint all at the same time.
Reply With Quote

  #3   Ban this user!
Old 05-24-2005, 06:48 AM
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Indonesia
Posts: 221
Calico is on a distinguished road

how do you match the end of each mating rail ?
I mean is there any guide/mark etc for matching ?
any phtos/samples ?

rud
Reply With Quote

  #4   Ban this user!
Old 05-24-2005, 08:26 AM
PEU's Avatar
PEU PEU is offline
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Buenos Aires - Argentina (I like Ribs)
Age: 44
Posts: 921
PEU is on a distinguished road

Originally Posted by HacknHew
It'll work as long as you take care to match up the ends of each mating rail, and also stagger the joints between each rail assembly so that each bearing block doesn't pass over a joint all at the same time.
The rail end is a clean perpendicular cut, there is no assembly, I ask because I want to be sure that no distortion will appear when the carriage goes over it.

Thanks


Pablo
Reply With Quote

  #5   Ban this user!
Old 05-24-2005, 01:46 PM
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 55
rc-cellar is on a distinguished road

Save yourself a big headache...
Arrange the blocks so they don't cross the gap (longer table?)
__________________
If it ain't broke... fix it 'til it is.
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #6   Ban this user!
Old 05-24-2005, 03:02 PM
PEU's Avatar
PEU PEU is offline
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Buenos Aires - Argentina (I like Ribs)
Age: 44
Posts: 921
PEU is on a distinguished road

well, thats the idea of the posted picture But the temptation of making a longer unit is big...!

if someone have more insight or done this before, please post, all opinions are welcome!!!

Thanks


Pablo
Reply With Quote

  #7  
Old 05-24-2005, 05:08 PM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: USA
Age: 52
Posts: 672
Halfnutz is on a distinguished road

Im in the process of joining two THK SR15's about 25" long. I sanded the ends flush on a disc sander with a fence and guide, so they are very square to each other and they seem to roll over the joint fine. Before I sanded them flush they grabbed some. One thing I would consider is if you make your cuts at the right place you will have a consecutive bolt pattern and can change out with one piece rails later. If you dont consider this then you will have to drill more holes if you try to change it out some day. THK talks about butt-joining thier rails on thier website, so I geusse it is OK to do. Also note that the extrusion you are mounting to does not have a high enough degree of flatness to satisfy THK's reccomended installation spec's. I dont know how big a deal this is, but Ive heard it discussed before. Im going to do the same thing, Im just checking the extrusions out with a straight edge first, I think they will be OK. Good luck!
__________________
Halfnutz

(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)
Reply With Quote

  #8   Ban this user!
Old 05-24-2005, 05:32 PM
PEU's Avatar
PEU PEU is offline
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Buenos Aires - Argentina (I like Ribs)
Age: 44
Posts: 921
PEU is on a distinguished road

Well, I purchased ballscrews with 330mm length, so the extra lenght is almost gone, but anyway joining two rails allows me to use the full lenght of the rail instead of the lenght minus the blocks.

Do you have the link where THK speaks of the rigidity of the rail bases?

Here is the new drawing with the ballscrew added:



Travel for this axis will the maximum allowed by the ballscrew, the bridge will be 317.5mm only

Regarding the rigidity of the extrusion, Im using 8020.net drawings, but since these can't be found here (Buenos Aires/Argentina) Later I will adapt it with the ones I can find.

Work in progress as you see

Thanks


Pablo
Reply With Quote

  #9   Ban this user!
Old 05-24-2005, 07:27 PM
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Sweden
Posts: 18
mk2lehe is on a distinguished road

Is this what you asked for concerning rigidity?
http://www.thk.se/pdf/235-9ESHS.pdf
Reply With Quote

  #10   Ban this user!
Old 05-24-2005, 08:16 PM
PEU's Avatar
PEU PEU is offline
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Buenos Aires - Argentina (I like Ribs)
Age: 44
Posts: 921
PEU is on a distinguished road

I find nothing regarding rigidity, but is very good read on the SHS system. Thanks!!!


Pablo
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How close can I space THK rails? bgolash DIY-CNC Router Table Machines 7 12-30-2004 11:13 PM
2 63" thk rails for $12 tltaylor DIY-CNC Router Table Machines 4 12-07-2004 10:58 PM
Wrong THK rail - Help! samualt DIY-CNC Router Table Machines 10 07-17-2004 01:26 PM
extending THK rails, rail alignment Cliff_J DIY-CNC Router Table Machines 1 05-28-2004 12:09 PM
Can I Cut THK Rails? samualt DIY-CNC Router Table Machines 5 09-15-2003 04:45 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:16 AM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361