Build Thread- Crane's 25x25 Solsylva Build w/ Pictures

[crane550]

Hi all, I am brand new to CNC, but have been reading alot about it and have been doing some homework for the last few months, and decided to go ahead and take the plunge.

I ordered the plans from Solsylva.com and just started assembly today.

A bit about me, I am a 25, and live with my wife and dog in Boise, ID. I work for a company that specializes in low voltage wiring and fiber optics. Like I said, I am new to CNC, but very familiar with electronics, wood working, shop, and computer aided design (notice I didn't say CAD!) I also like long walks on the beach, yada yada. Ya'll will get to know me, I hope to stick around for a while.

Here is my start:




The way I see it is so far I have the base for my CNC or a very expensive and extremely square cargo pallet.

It took about 4 seconds to decide to ship the base that is shown in the plans. Something about it I don't really like. I will eventually build something to put it on, but for now I just want to get to the good stuff.

I'm not made of money, so budget will probably be the limiting factor on how fast I get this thing built. Sorry if it takes a while, but I promise you, I will get there!

So far thinking about using the HobbyCNC Ez package with the 305oz steppers. Sound like enough? Will also probably start out with the Linux CNC package as I am an Ubuntu nut.

Definitely have a lot of questions, especially when I get to steppers and electronics but my hope here is to have some fun.

God bless!

[brihoo2k]

Nice Mustang and Baja Bug. Ubuntu is awesome. I myself am leaning toward using emc2. I will watch with interest

[vger]

Welcome Crane,

Greetings from Oklahoma. Looks good so far! Will be interested to see your progress. My current machine is about that size, 26" X 26" X 9", but is soon to be dismantled for larger one. I used a piece of an old desk top for my table and aluminum extrusions for the mechanicals. For leadscrews I used 1/2" 10 single start acme which allows up to about 75 IPM. I added a rotary table that can mounted either under / in the table, or at the end with a tail stock at the other end.

I commend your thought on using Ubutu! EMC2 is a breeze to install and set up. You just download the ISO image, burn it, and install. It installs Ubutu and the EMC package. Just don't upgrade to the latest Ubutu or EMC will quit working properly. There is even a built in utility (you have to enable it) that converts a grayscale BMP to 3D for lithophane work like this:


Your choice of drivers/motors sounds like it will definately fit the bill. I use a Bosch Palm router for the spindle now. The variable speed is nice and the price is hard to beat.

Keep the pictures coming !

Enjoy
Steve

[crane550]

Thanks for the Ubuntu tips. I am going to run the bootable CD here soon and poke around to see what features there are, and see what kind of software is bundled, but I will leave most of my research until the machine is getting closer to finished.

Just got off work, on my way to the shop to start on the rails. Got to stop by Lowes to pick up some parts. I am also picking up a drill press on my way there, its about dang time I got one of those.

The plans call for 1/2" I.D (approx 7/8 OD) black gas pipe. I snagged some 3/4 EMT from work, the outside diameter is 7/8 and the stuff seems pretty rigid. I know its really heavy. Anyone foresee problems?

Will post pics. Wish me luck.

[Jesse B]

Looking forward to see this progress. I plan on using EMC2 as well (at this point in time, whenever I get my machine built ).

[crane550]

Well, started on the rails today.



Here is my birthday present this year. Been needing one for a while now and just finally got one.



Of course had to pick up a set of Forstner bits while I was at it. Probably spent more today in drill bits then materials. $20 Forstner bit set, $11 this, $9 that... Aaargh.



Here is the bottom of the rail support.



And the completed rails, but not attached to the bed yet. I will probably take them apart to paint tomorrow. Now to choose a color...



I selected framing grade 2x4's for the 2x material. Hope this was the right choice. I looked at the more expensive 2x4's, but they all were not nearly as straight as the framing ones, altho the wood seemed better. So now I am second guessing. I will probably leave it for now and come back later to replace.

[crane550]

Sanded the bed and got the first coat of paint on today. Stood in front of the paint section at home depot for waaaay too long this morning. Could not decide on colors so just decided to go with our local teams color, the Boise State Broncos. Anyways, blue and orange it is.

Sanding is always a pain, but I knew that if I didn't do it now so I could paint it never would happen. I want to get on to the good stuff, but unfortunately this is just one of those things that just takes time.





Waiting for the bed to dry I got a start on the X axis frame.

[Jesse B]

This should be one bright and colorful machine with those color choices Looking forward to seeing more progress.

[crane550]

Well, friends, it has been a VERY busy day. Been at this since this morning and only stopped for a couple hours of church, and then straight back to it.

Since my last post earlier today (while at church ) I have got quite a lot done. Started out by installing the rails back onto the newly painted supports.



Then I cut all the remaining pieces to length and drilled. I had a little trouble getting the X axis motor mount to look right, even though I was going off of a template. I think most of it will be covered up via a LARGE washer. I guess its not that bad, but geez.



Then it was time to attach the legs. This task was a LOT harder then I thought it would be. If your reading this thinking of starting this project let me give you two tips that will save you a ton of grief:

1. Make sure your workbench is big enough, and LEVEL!!!!! Mine is probably only off by a 16th on an inch, but it shows up over and over. A completely flat work surface lets you use the table as a reference. I am shooting for 1/32 precision in all my cuts and joints. An uneven surface makes achieving this a nightmare.

2. For your 2x material...DONT USE FRAMING LUMBER. I wish I would have gone to my local hardwood store and had them cut me something custom and paid $30 for the wood, instead of $9 for the 3 2x4's I have needed so far. Even if it looks straight in the pile, it is not. Nor is it square. I have been fighting this all day.

Despite those two setback, it's all together and believe it or not, its all straight. Took a TON on trial and error, and even putting in glue and dowels to holes I already screwed so I could move the joint 1/16 of an inch. This could have gone a lot faster, but I am very confident that everything is exact, and my gut feeling is this will make things easier (or at least not more difficult) later.





Here she is currently. Before I mount it to the bed, I will sand it and paint it. (Come on, its 12:30am!) Then tomorrow its onto the gantry...



Stay tuned! I know this is the boring part, but things will get interesting!

[CarveOne]

Originally Posted by crane550 2. For your 2x material...DONT USE FRAMING LUMBER. I wish I would have gone to my local hardwood store and had them cut me something custom and paid $30 for the wood, instead of $9 for the 3 2x4's I have needed so far. Even if it looks straight in the pile, it is not. Nor is it square. I have been fighting this all day.

If those 2x4 pieces continue to give you trouble, make new replacements by gluing two layers of the 1x4 clear pine together with the annular rings opposing each other like (). Use 60 minute epoxy or a good coat of Titebond yellow glue. You'll end up with the same 1.5" x 3" physical size with nice square corners.

When I built my Solsylva 25x37 I ruled out the 2x4 lumber right away because they are not stable with time and decided it was going to be made of poplar or red oak. Both are expensive, but I ended up using red oak because the bolts don't sink in so easily when tightened and it just looks so much better than poplar. That was the best decision that I made on that build. It cost me around $80 for the wood though.

The 25x37 uses EMT electrical tubing. After 1.5 years of very light use it is starting to develop some flat places where the bearings roll but it will be a long time before they need to be replaced.


CarveOne

[crane550]

I had the exact same idea with gluing the wood, and if I were to start over I would definitely do that, but for now it is together and fairly straight so I think I will leave it. This machine is *hopefully* just to get me started. I would like to build another w/ aluminum using this machine once it is all done.

I have also worked with red oak a LOT. I have build an entertainment center, several coffee tables, end tables, guitar rackmounts...quite a bit. I really like how red oak works. The problem w/ that is I buy mine at a local hardwood store, and all they do is plane two sides and joint one. Then I run the same piece several times thru my table saw. This does not give the best results. It's more then good enough for the furniture I build, because I kinda like the sawed look, but for something that I want straight as an arrow I just decided to buy the already cut pine at Home Depot. A better table saw would do the trick, but then again thats more money. $$

Also, good to know on the rails. But again same story. The EMT was also free.

[crane550]

Well, friends. What a day it has been.

Spent a lot of money and can't really say I have gotten much further. After CarveOne's comment about the framing lumber, and looking at his Solsylva build I was kinda sold on rebuilding the rails and legs. They took less time to build then the last ones, and came out nicer, but still, don't really feel like I made any ground.

Also the colors were really bugging me. I don't know why, but since I was rebuilding the X axis anyways, and didn't need the frame to work on it today, I figured why not. So I painted the frame an ugly brown and the X axis is now a stained blue. Will probably just bomb can the X again tomorrow, don't know what I was thinking spending $10 to have them mix me a custom stain. Didn't look anything like I thought.

Anyways, here are the new X rails.



Gluing the 1x4's to make 2x4s...



And the new 100% pine X. I know pine is not as strong as other woods, but it's cheap, and the stuff they had at Home Depot was straight, so don't give me too much crap.



Whew. All day working on this and I am in the same spot I was last Friday. Sleep time.

Comments please!