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    Default Re: Probotix Nebula vs CNC Router Parts CRP4848

    Does CNC Router Parts run any promotions / sales at any point during the year? If I decide to proceed with the pro, I might be moving outside my financial comfort zone.



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    Default Re: Probotix Nebula vs CNC Router Parts CRP4848

    Quote Originally Posted by manofmanyhats View Post
    This is a MUCH better machine than the other 2 you're considering OP. It will be orders of magnitude more rigid and capable of running without adjustment for quite some time. They also currently have a 25% off sale on this machine with free shipping. I don't think you're going to find anything that competes with it, short of looking at the used industrial market and waiting for the right machine to come along. The CNCRP PRO line is also very nice, but the FLA Saturn is likely considerably more rigid, as it has a welded steel frame.
    To also follow up on a comment that manofmanyhats wrote regarding the difference between the CNC RP and FLA models. How often will I have to make adjustments on a pro CNC RP model? Are we talking about the frame/gantry? Excuse my ignorance, but I assumed once you have it setup and aligned after installation, it would not need any further scheduled attention.



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    Quote Originally Posted by DG_TX View Post
    Does CNC Router Parts run any promotions / sales at any point during the year? If I decide to proceed with the pro, I might be moving outside my financial comfort zone.
    Well I've visited there site practically every day for three years , and I haven't seen any promos . I would like to get the 4x4 Pro version myself. But I was going to build the electronics, as I really believe there plug and play Nema 34 system is a bit overpriced for what you get?

    Unfortunately, with the exchange rate on the Canada dollar , our 14%tax , shipping and duty , the price is close to double by the time it's on my door step

    for ****s and giggles , I put the spindle , plug and play Nema 34 , and a 4x4 Pro version in the cart . I found a site that does all the conversions for me , and when it was done the cost was over 16K .
    That's a lot for a hobby imo . But then again , I know guys who have 30K tied up in there sleds

    I don't actaully know anything about CNC router tables , but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night


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    Yea, the cost really adds up quick when selecting all the bells and whistles.

    Does anyone have any recommendations on a spindle and VFD that doesn't break the bank but also is relatively easy plug and play? Is the $1,600 spindle combo on the CNC router parts site worth it?



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    Quote Originally Posted by DG_TX View Post
    Yea, the cost really adds up quick when selecting all the bells and whistles.

    Does anyone have any recommendations on a spindle and VFD that doesn't break the bank but also is relatively easy plug and play? Is the $1,600 spindle combo on the CNC router parts site worth it?
    A member on this site uses this one on eBay , and a Hitachi VFD for his Saturn from FLA , and David has had no issues. I want to use the same when the time comes .

    I don't actaully know anything about CNC router tables , but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night


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    Default Re: Probotix Nebula vs CNC Router Parts CRP4848

    Quote Originally Posted by MajorTendonitis View Post
    A member on this site uses this one on eBay , and a Hitachi VFD for his Saturn from FLA , and David has had no issues. I want to use the same when the time comes .
    I'm not seeing the link to the ebay ad you are referring to.



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    Default Re: Probotix Nebula vs CNC Router Parts CRP4848

    TOP QUALITY 3KW WATER-COOLED MOTOR SPINDLE ENGRAVING MILL GRIND | eBay

    Sorry about that.
    There has been issues with cheap Chinese VFDs , so David recommends spending a bit more and going with the Hitachi . Apparently cheap ones may cause noise issues with the other electronics

    https://www.driveswarehouse.com/wj200-022sf-2527

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    Now that I've bought a "cheap chinese vfd", I can say that I'd buy one again, at close to 1/3 the price of a Hitachi.
    It's not perfect, and has fewer features, but it runs the spindle just fine.
    All VFD's are noisy, and proper wiring and shielding is essential, regardless of brand.

    My only recommendation is to only buy ones labeled as "Genuine Huanyang", and preferably from an Ebay seller that's been selling them for a long time. I bought mine from Solar Jean, who's been selling them for well over 5 years.

    HUAN YANG 1.5KW,2.2KW,3KW,4KW,5.5KW,7.5KW VARIABLE FREQUENCY DRIVE INVERTER VFD | eBay

    Offer them $130 and they'll knock a few bucks off the price.

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    Default Re: Probotix Nebula vs CNC Router Parts CRP4848

    Quote Originally Posted by ger21 View Post
    Now that I've bought a "cheap chinese vfd", I can say that I'd buy one again, at close to 1/3 the price of a Hitachi.
    It's not perfect, and has fewer features, but it runs the spindle just fine.
    All VFD's are noisy, and proper wiring and shielding is essential, regardless of brand.

    My only recommendation is to only buy ones labeled as "Genuine Huanyang", and preferably from an Ebay seller that's been selling them for a long time. I bought mine from Solar Jean, who's been selling them for well over 5 years.

    HUAN YANG 1.5KW,2.2KW,3KW,4KW,5.5KW,7.5KW VARIABLE FREQUENCY DRIVE INVERTER VFD | eBay

    Offer them $130 and they'll knock a few bucks off the price.
    I'm going to mount my vfd in a separate enclosure simular to what cncrp does , hopefully providing additional insurance . Each to his own of course.

    Gerald I know you've got a lot of experience , so when the time comes ,I was going to build around what you recommend.
    I just try and play it safe sometimes . Comes with being a hypochondriac

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    Quote Originally Posted by ger21 View Post
    Now that I've bought a "cheap chinese vfd", I can say that I'd buy one again, at close to 1/3 the price of a Hitachi.
    It's not perfect, and has fewer features, but it runs the spindle just fine.
    All VFD's are noisy, and proper wiring and shielding is essential, regardless of brand.

    My only recommendation is to only buy ones labeled as "Genuine Huanyang", and preferably from an Ebay seller that's been selling them for a long time. I bought mine from Solar Jean, who's been selling them for well over 5 years.

    HUAN YANG 1.5KW,2.2KW,3KW,4KW,5.5KW,7.5KW VARIABLE FREQUENCY DRIVE INVERTER VFD | eBay

    Offer them $130 and they'll knock a few bucks off the price.
    Gerald, I found the below ebay link for a spindle/vfd combo from Solar Jean. Although the description states the VFD is Huanyang, I cannot determine if the spindle is as well.
    2.2KW WATER COOLED MOTOR SPINDLE & DRIVE INVERTER VFD 80MM DIAMETER WITH HY | eBay
    Do you feel it is a good deal or would it be better/safer for me to purchase the Huanyang VFD only from your original ebay link HUAN YANG 1.5KW,2.2KW,3KW,4KW,5.5KW,7.5KW VARIABLE FREQUENCY DRIVE INVERTER VFD | eBay
    and the Huanyang spindle from MajorTendonitis' link TOP QUALITY 3KW WATER-COOLED MOTOR SPINDLE ENGRAVING MILL GRIND | eBay



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    Huanyang doesn't make the spindles, and I think they come from a variety of sources. I bought the cheapest spindles I could find, and they seem to work fine.
    If you want water cooled, I doubt you'll find a better deal than that one.

    Not that major's link is to a 3Kw spindle, and I was talking about a 2.2Kw spindle. You need to make sure you get the appropriate sized VFD for the spindle you buy.
    A 3kw spindle needs a 3Kw VFD.

    Gerry

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    Update: I have placed an order with Probotix for their Nebula model. I have also purchased their spindle/VFD combo, z-puck, dust boot, threaded insert table grid, and monitor/keyboard control arm.

    After doing a bit more research, I feel this one will work best for me at this price point. I also greatly prefer the plug and play feature it offers. Len at Probotix has been very helpful throughout the process as well.

    Very excited to get started with my first CNC. I'll post up some pics once it arrives in the next 2 - 3 weeks.



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