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    Has anyone modified a Makita RT0701C for a Super PID sensor? I just brought one home, assuming it would be relatively easy, and then noticed that in order to get the top off I have to break the stick on s/n label. So then I figured I might as well ask, first, before I make it unreturnable. :-)

    I like this Makita because it fits my mill's size and weight constraints as a replacement for the older Ryobi laminate trimmer I used before. I just let all the smoke out of that one, and it doesn't seem to have user-refillable smoke in order to get it going again.

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    Well, instant gratification got the better of me, and I've answered my own question. :-/

    It seems that this router (the Makita RT0701C) isn't that easy to modify. The top of the shaft isn't exposed, as is usually the case. Instead, it seems the tip of the shaft and the bearings are under another layer of plastic. Or perhaps that's not the bearings, but the "sender" part of what looks like a magnetic rotation sensor of some sort. Either way, I'm reluctant to disassemble further. Since I can't return the router to the local big-box anymore, I guess I'll mount it up and use it with its built-in variable speed (10K to 30K) for now, and perhaps get a Super-PID and mount the sensor down low near the collet. It looks like there's plenty of room there.

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    Default Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    Sorry if this is a thread Hijack, But with over 100 pages, there's a lot in this thread to dig through. My old computer died and I had to upgrade (windows 8) no parallel port and I'm having an issue with the SuperPID G540 and Mach3 with an Ethernet smoothstepper. All axis work, My issue is that I can turn the router on and off but I have no speed control. It may be strange but I'd like someone to walk me through the path the tach signal takes through the system I see the speed on the SuperPID and when I'm not trying to change it the RPM shows correctly in Mach 3. It seems like the feedback in mach3 is not connecting between in and out. Because when I tell Mach3 to increase RPM I see the numbers go up on the screen but soon as I let go it drops back down to 5000 rpm. And I think I'm too close to the issue to see the answer for all the trees.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Grift View Post
    Sorry if this is a thread Hijack, But with over 100 pages, there's a lot in this thread to dig through. My old computer died and I had to upgrade (windows 8) no parallel port and I'm having an issue with the SuperPID G540 and Mach3 with an Ethernet smoothstepper. All axis work, My issue is that I can turn the router on and off but I have no speed control. It may be strange but I'd like someone to walk me through the path the tach signal takes through the system I see the speed on the SuperPID and when I'm not trying to change it the RPM shows correctly in Mach 3. It seems like the feedback in mach3 is not connecting between in and out. Because when I tell Mach3 to increase RPM I see the numbers go up on the screen but soon as I let go it drops back down to 5000 rpm. And I think I'm too close to the issue to see the answer for all the trees.
    Why not start a new thread instead of posting in a old thread unrelated to your current issue?



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    Default Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    The tach signal has nothing to do with the speed control in Mach3. All it can do is provide visual of the actual rpm from the super pid.

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    Default Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    I put it here because it still involves all the equipment in the thread



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    Yeah, I'm in the same situation as Grift. Not sure if he ever solved it. I searched the thread and read what I could.

    I have a ESS smooth stepper with Mach3 and the SPID. I only see one setting to control the pins for the output. Spindle. I assume it's the on and off function, but I don't see anywhere to do speed control or PWM.

    I've been going through Warp9's documentation as well. If anyone has any suggestions or tips, I would love to hear them!



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    Default Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    Still in the same boat.



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    Default Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    bumtown. Well I HAVE to solve it...soooo I'll let you know when I do.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Grift View Post
    Still in the same boat.
    http://www.vhipe.com/product-private...structions.pdf

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    check voltage at "POT" or "Pin 8 VFD Output", does it increase? Does the voltage drop back to a 5000 rpm setting ??



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    Been a while since anyone has posted on this thread. I ordered a SuperPID a week and some change ago along with the 10 day delivery+tracking uplift. I haven't heard from the vendor and several emails asking about installation specifics have been unanswered. I asked around on Reddit and found at least one other person with the same problem.

    Does anyone know if the SuperPID folks are still in business? Obviously, the world has some issues these days and I'm happy to wait but thus far all I've gotten is dead air.



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    Another 10 days, still no response. Emails unanswered and the paypal email address provided bounces as non-deliverable.

    The store is still up and running an accepting payment, but there is no sign that anyone is there doing anything (except maybe collecting those payments). Paypal gives me 180 days to file a dispute so I'm going to let this ride for a while but.... this isn't a good look. Anyone interested in this product might want to look elsewhere.



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    Default Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    Good Luck

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    Default Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    It appears that, Roman Black, the chap that put the SuperPID together has not been seen in any of the many forum's he used to frequent, or his web site since the 2014's .
    I did contact the Co who seems to have been marketing it about a year ago and they said they would 'forward' a question I had to him.
    But I suspect there is another story!
    The site that is marketing it is still up?
    He has some interesting designs on his (Roman Black) site.
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    Default Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    I had a tech question about 6 months this ago that took a week to get back with me on but they did respond.


    If you don't want to go for a spindle the super PID is worth waiting on.



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    Default Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    Update with some good news: 3 weeks after placing my order, I finally received an email saying that they are in fact still alive and "Hoping that your order will ship to you in the next few days." So, with some hopes and dreams, I might actually get one of these things shipped some day. Hate to think how long this would have taken if I didn't pay extra for the fast shipping option



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    Default Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    Congrats that's great let us know when you recive your shipment.

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    Default Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    Remember that a large part of the world has been shut down for two months....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ger21 View Post
    Remember that a large part of the world has been shut down for two months....
    Understood, but the traditional approach has been up update your website saying as much, or maybe close down your store and stop accepting orders. If you're not going to bother to do those things, wouldn't hurt to occasionally check your emails for new orders and set some expectations with the customer.

    I'm not in a huge hurry here so it's no big deal, but I also sell small electronic devices online and... let's say I wouldn't do it like this. If I'm going to be accepting money from people, I take it upon myself to have the product ready to ship and to do so within a reasonable time. If I can't do those things, I turn off my store and stop accepting orders. I'm a one-man shop and I occasionally take vacation (or run out of parts), so this is a normal occurrence.



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    Quote Originally Posted by luma View Post
    Understood, but the traditional approach has been up update your website saying as much, or maybe close down your store and stop accepting orders. If you're not going to bother to do those things, wouldn't hurt to occasionally check your emails for new orders and set some expectations with the customer.

    I'm not in a huge hurry here so it's no big deal, but I also sell small electronic devices online and... let's say I wouldn't do it like this. If I'm going to be accepting money from people, I take it upon myself to have the product ready to ship and to do so within a reasonable time. If I can't do those things, I turn off my store and stop accepting orders. I'm a one-man shop and I occasionally take vacation (or run out of parts), so this is a normal occurrence.
    I agree customer service is paramount.

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