Reply with QuoteYes I have seen it, I don't need to contact him, just wondered why he has quit a few forums and doesn't seem to have updated his web site for a while.Originally Posted by ger21
Al.
Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller
The white is the collector/receiver of the LED signal,The red is the photo diode lead.
Al.
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Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller
Yes I have seen it, I don't need to contact him, just wondered why he has quit a few forums and doesn't seem to have updated his web site for a while.
Al.
CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Custom Machine Design
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Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller
Yup. I thought I had screwed up at first, but turns out I had a ground and white swapped. Now I've got the router pulled apart because the debacle scratched off too much white paint. There really is such a thing as "too close".
Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller
I currently run a superpid with a Hitachi router. Everything runs as it is supposed to. I would like to have mach start and stop the router. I have been running it with two toggle switches, one for main power and one to start the router. What do I need to do to run it with mach? It already has a wall wort power supply to trigger the router on and off. I could care less about running it without mach. I just want it to shut off when its finished cutting. My controller board is a Hobbycnc pro, I have only used three of the outputs so far.
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It's probably already been answered 50 times in this thread, as well as in the manual.
Gerry
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Everything I've read talks about taking the power off of the hobby cnc board. I already have the power at the superPID. Is all I need is the trigger or do I need to take the power from the board? I've read a ton of stuff and just getting more confused.
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Page 20 in the manual.
http://www.vhipe.com/product-private...structions.pdf
Connect an output from your board to the run terminal of the SuperPID.
In Mach3, Ports and Pins, Output Pins, assign that pin to Output 1.
In Config, Ports and Pins, Spindle (I think, don't have mach3 here), Uncheck "Disable Spindle Relays" and assign output 1 to M3 CW.
Gerry
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Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller
Thanks Ger. I read that part of the manual 10-15 times and it never clicked til now. Sorry for being a pain in ___.
Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller
I ran a SPID with a Makita router with no problems. I upgraded to a Porter Cable 7518 and am still trying to get it to work. Are there any special things that need attention. The SPID screen just cycles through the menus. The router runs and stops. I have adjusted the optical sensor. Do I leave the TRIAC in and jump it or should it be removed. I have a CNCROUTERPARTS NEMA 34 electronics cabinet with PMDX 126 board. I initially wanted to run the router with the software but just basic running would b a good start.. Any help appreciated.
Last edited by GregH4036; 04-12-2016 at 07:24 AM.
Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller
Hi guys, i have the Super-Pid, Ethernet Smoothstepper and C10 breakout board, i have 4 wires from S-Pid to BoB, i can turn on/of and fully control the speed, but i can't get the RPM display to work, been messing around with the index input but no luck. Can someone please help me how tn configure mach3. Thanks...
Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller
Are you using the default screens?
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Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller
yes, default screen...
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Do you have it wired like the manual shows? How do you have it configured in Mach3?
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Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller
like i said, 4 wires (gnd, tach, run, 5v) from s-pid to bob (gnd, 8 to run, 9 to pwm, tach to input 10), i can turn on/off and fully control the speed of the router. In mach3, enable index and assign port and pin, try to stick and unstick active low also. In spindle setup tab, stick use spindle feedback in sync mode. Also tried to put some number in index debounce box. Im not sure if i have to do anything with ess plugin or what.
Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller
What router is considered to be the easiest to install the RPM sensor?
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Well I'm sure everyone has an opinion.
I found the Porter Cable 690 a good choice for my needs. There was adequate room on the top part of the router. I have a small lathe, so I was able to machine the needed hardware which holds the speed sensor. I silver soldered the two pieces I fabricated together and then drilled and tapped a whole on the router to mount the assembly.
Also Precise Bits makes collets that fit this router.
Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller
I found the Porter Cable 8902 was fairly easy to modify. I may have also posted the mod process on this forum but I also posted it here: Build Your Tools ? View topic - Super PID
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Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller
I bought it last year to upgrade my Bosch 1617evs and it works quite well. I took photos of my conversion process if you would like to see it. I haven't had a chance to add any commentary yet, but the photos are there.
John Whitten
Mod Bosch 1617evs Router for Super-Pid Controller
Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller
Nice pics - anything interesting during the conversion?
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Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller
Minor stuff I guess. I cut off the original speed controller about a half-second before I noticed the quick connects... ;-)
I did have some angst in trying to get the router reassembled. It was a little bit of a pain getting the brushes set back in correctly and all back together with just me. I needed about four or five hands to do it right. I don't recall now exactly what I used-- but I rigged up something (probably a couple of small screwdrivers?) to kind of hold them in place with a little bit of tension and that was just barely enough to keep them pulled back enough out of the way that I could get the rotor back up into the top housing okay (meaning that they held in place as long as I didn't breath on them or jostle them in any way-- it took me a couple of tries to get it right). That was pretty tricky. But I got it done.
The only other issue in building was getting the phototransistor positioned properly. I wasn't quite sure how far down in the hole it should go. There is some guidance in the manual / web site-- but I still wasn't quite sure when it was just right. I finally decided when I pushed it all the way in until it touched and backed it out just slightly, that seemed to get the best response in the test display.
Then after I got it all put back together and set up, there was one more minor little thing-- if I hit the cable just a little, it would jostle the phototransistor out of position. Finally I got it set just right and just squirted some hot-glue into the tube and it hasn't been a problem since.
The SuperPid works just fine. Now that I have it all set up, the only "strangeness" that I have-- I think is really a Mach 3 issue-- for some reason the very first time I use it, after powering everything up-- (everything, router, controller, computer, Mach 3, etc-- all of it)-- it doesn't set the speed correctly from Mach 3. It does turn it on, but always at the wrong speed. But if I just shut it off (from the screen) and re-set the speed again and start it, the second time and every time thereafter, it works fine. I have no idea why but it hasn't bothered me enough to investigate.
In my setup, I have a custom electronics cabinet I made out of an old computer case. I mounted the SuperPid on top of one of the disk drive bays-- you can see it in the pictures. Since those pictures were taken, I have subsequently made a nice bezel for the LCD and manual speed control knob, along with a run/stop switch, and mounted them on the front of the case.
If you're interested in seeing photos of my old CNC router, here are my albums for it:
Here's all of my old CNC Router Project Logs:
(Old) CNC Router Project: https://goo.gl/photos/2H4MxsQn5Hzfe2am7
Adding Limit Sensors to the Old CNC Router: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ma5iFbSLt8Qe1wBo2
Mod Bosch 1617evs Router for Super-Pid Controller: https://photos.app.goo.gl/p4CdNRqYkwPqYwG33
Rebuilding the Z-Axis on the Old CNC Router: https://photos.app.goo.gl/XBVgymfNfNSm3sOQ2
Here is the log for my New router in progress...
New CNC Router Project: https://goo.gl/photos/Co81AvGwVijE2zow9
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