CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > Other Machines > Digitizing and Laser Digitizing


Digitizing and Laser Digitizing Discuss Digitizing parts via Laser or otherwise here!


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Ban this user!
Old 01-15-2007, 06:45 AM
greybeard's Avatar  
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: UK
Age: 73
Posts: 1,346
greybeard is on a distinguished road
Is this the way 3d scanning will go ?

Found this link via a thread in the David forum.

http://www.3dvsystems.com/technology/product.html

Once this chip is out in the marketplace, will other methods become redundant ?

John
__________________
It's like doing jigsaw puzzles in the dark.
Why is there always more error than trial ?
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #2  
Old 01-15-2007, 09:09 AM
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 742
CJL5585 is on a distinguished road
Wave of the future.

John,

Thanks for the link. I have been hoping for something like this to come to market. 3D from matched digital cameras.

It requires a fantastic amount of data processing to pull this off in real time, and it will only get better as the technology advances.

Jerry
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #3   Ban this user!
Old 01-24-2007, 09:24 AM
braidmeister's Avatar  
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 203
braidmeister is an unknown quantity at this point

No. At least not for a while anyway. When they say 'affordable' that can mean any number of things, and usually that it is too expensive for us 'bottom feeders'.

Performance wise, if you are satisfied with the David, then this will be right up your alley. It lists 'high res depth of field' as 1-2 CM. That doesn't get the job done for me. I can do better with a touch probe...

However...you will be able to digitize PEOPLE safely with their eyes open, which aside from a few products out there, is hard to do.

I guess we'll have to wait & see what the market brings. I doubt it will replace much of anything. Everybody thought that the NextEngine was going to shut down all of the higher priced laser scanners out there at it $2500 price. It did no such thing. It may have taken a few sales away from Roland (whose product is superior to the NE), but that's about it.

-B
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #4   Ban this user!
Old 02-15-2007, 03:09 AM
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Lincoln, Ne
Posts: 76
senor J. is on a distinguished road

I tentatively disagree with your assessment of the nextengine scanner. It is true that the early, and even current release of the scanner + software was full of bugs. but they are, to their credit, resolving those issues at a adequate rate. given time ( a year or so ) roland digital wont have really anything over nextengin. In fact the next engine approach of being able to move the scanner freely and then being able to align the scans in a truly 3d universe verses just the 360 single plane rotation that the roland model offers will surpase and outdate the roland model of scanning. Nextengine, while not there quite yet, has my vote. That is to say, If I was a betting man I would bet on nextengine to be the future of Home/semi profesional/ sometimes profesional scanning, as long as tolerances are not NASA precise. By the way I own one and have spent literally hundreds of hours using, and am painfully aware of the current realities and imminent possibilities of the scanner. Already I have seen drastic improvements in the software hardware interface that has allowed me to make $$ easily enough to pay for the scanner that with the roland I would not have been able to make, what with its single plane 360 scan instead of the nextengin truly 3d scanning capabilities
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #5   Ban this user!
Old 02-15-2007, 03:18 AM
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Lincoln, Ne
Posts: 76
senor J. is on a distinguished road

see my obviously unbiased review of the next engine scanner I posted 4 months ago versus what I just posted today. Here is the title of the post under laser digitizing. ""New" 3D Scanner from NEXTENGINE" from a first hand rather cynical perspective you can see I have slowly changed my mind and realized that Nextengine is becoming a blessing to the hobbiest/semiprofesional/sometimes professional, cad developer/machinist.
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #6   Ban this user!
Old 02-15-2007, 12:52 PM
braidmeister's Avatar  
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 203
braidmeister is an unknown quantity at this point

Senor,
No doubt the NE scanner is a neat little piece of hardware. For the money it is hard to beat. You have hundreds of hours using the NE scanner. New users would find the Roland much easier to use initially. Plug it in, and scan away. The NE (as YOU already know!) is very touchy with depth of field and getting it right to get a clean scan. It takes some time and patience to get the NE to perform as you expect. All in all it's a great little scanner for the price and does offer more flexibility in scanning (like stitching large panels together etc) than the Roland. I've used both, and the Roland is less finicky than the NE.

The resolution offered by the NE and Roland was too coarse for what I need, so I didn't wind up buying either of them...but for most people the NE is a great little package. Even if it is clunky, I gotta hand it to NE for doing a great job on the software. It has a lot of functionality for the price...almost unbelievably so.

Post some pics of what you have scanned. It would be interesting to see what you are getting with your NE as a seasoned user. This would probably go far to offer encouragement to those who have one but haven't quite gotten it dialed in yet...

-Brady
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:12 AM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353