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Old 03-03-2008, 12:35 PM
 
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Question Updating Acramatic 2100 (A2100)

I have a Cincinnati Arrow 500 VMC with a Acramatic 2100 (A2100) control Pentium 1 (75 mhz) with dual motherboards. I want to convert the PC portion to a modern Intel 775 CPU Motherboard. The Control is Windows NT based.

I changed the Cmos batteries last week And suddenly the machine wont work. i did flash the bios on the rt board. I also reloaded the current software in the control from the hard drive

This is a portin of the Siemens Email (they auqired the control from Vickers then stopped making it)
A failure here usually means the WSCPU (1st motherboard) $2300 is at fault - it cannot communicate with the (2nd motherboard) RTCPU..

(My controll errors)
The NC Engine Base test failed every time.

Hardware Diagnostic Startup Status

Bridge board (RI) #0 Results Unkown
High Density I/0 #0 Results Unkown
Pendant Panel #0 Results Unkown
Read Time Processor #0 Results Unkown

I think updating the motherboard to modern low cost parts would be a good investment. My machine uses Kollmorgen servos and servo amplifiers it has about 10 serial ports and two or three larger ports. I have been looking on the web and theres a lot of specialty pci serial port cards. Im not sure if there will be driver issues also.

Anyone out there thats done something like this before?

Thanks Mark
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Old 03-07-2008, 04:16 AM
 
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Unhappy Same **** here

Hello there, I ve been playing with a vickers pc for the last 10 days so here is something you can try

1-take the RT MB off the machine

2-find an old ISA VGA card and push it in one of the slots

3-find an old power supply and attach it to where you give MB power

4-old keyboard or a converter so you can use the MB

when you flashed the BIOS of the RT MB it back to default settings waiting for a floppy drive and a keyboard

so get in the Bios and change the settings to

1-NO Floppy
2-Halt ON NO ERRORS

that will make it go fine and the led on the right hand side on your bridge board should go off in a 5 secs during start

wish that helps you mine was a little bit further problem
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Old 06-05-2008, 06:04 AM
 
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Old 06-06-2008, 11:31 AM
 
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hi, i have a tree 250 with the acramatic 2100 and in desperately need the 2100 software. i have emailed siemens, and even tree repair shops and nobody has the software. do you have it saved where i could get a copy of it. i would be very greatfull..
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Old 07-28-2008, 10:11 AM
 
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Cincinnati Milacron Retrofits

I have heard lots of discussion on replacing SABRE and Arrow products because of drive and control issues. I have also seen in these discussions that trying to replace these products with machines that can deliver the same capabilities is not inexpensive.

Why not consider retrofit! I develop retrofit solutions for MAG products. MAG currently owns Cincinnati\G&L\FADAL and several other major Machine Tool Builder OEM's. I have had good success with retrofits. I currently have a kit available for Arrow's with the Control Techniques control and Sabre's with the Acramatic 850SX.
I will be developing a A2100 replacement and a Kollmorgan drive replacement.

There are planns to also supply control kits for the Cincinnati milacron Cinturn products.

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Hello there, I ve been playing with a vickers pc for one moth ago and I here is something you can try, and somebody help me???

I change the cmos battery's and lost the hard drive controler, i'm looking for a cmos program for reflashing the bios on the mother board...
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Unhappy Dead machine

Dear sir,
I have recently bought an arrow 1000 machine. I tried powering it up. The control turns on, boots up normally, all tests passed.
The message on lower left hand corner shows Machine off/Emergency stop PB.
I started with checking the emergency stop switches they seemed to be correct.
Drives seemed ok with 2 leds 1 red and 1 green . machine is off limits,.
When I ran the extended diagnostics in continuous mode which showed the test failed , I have attached snap shots.
I guess the person who tried to service the machine before me buying had changed the batteries in the RT board.
Machine off/Emergency stop PB is unchanged even after pressing the power button many times. Nothing works on the machine.
I have access to electronic card level service, but I do not know which part to service.
I would request you to kindly advise me on the issue.
Thank You


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Please give me a call in the office on Monday and I will be glad to help. MAG Global Services. MAG - The Global Machine Tool Manufacturer: MAG call 859-534-4748
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