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    Default Any User Input?? - Hind Technologies / Masso HTG5A1S Controller

    This looks like an amazing controller option, has anyone tried these yet? If it performs reliably, and as advertised, 500 bucks sounds like a bargain. Although if it doesn't... 500 bucks is a lot for a paper-weight.

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    I have a simple CNC router project I'm interested in trying this on, 3-axis, manual tool change, stepper control (Clearpath servos eventually), etc. My concern is that I can't find hardly any reviews or feedback regarding this controller online. That is, any reviews from people actually using it. There are a few videos and blurbs about it out there but they all appear to only be from either the manufacturer, a distributor, or someone given the controller to review. By no means do I consider this a negative thing, as I realize this is a new product and you have to start somewhere. Yet at the same time I'm a bit reluctant. Any input?

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    Default Re: Any User Input?? - Hind Technologies / Masso HTG5A1S Controller

    I purchased one to control my dual drive plasma table (needing a slave axis).

    I've only been testing it on the bench just to get a feel for it before I swap it in.

    It's a bit rough out of the box (programming-wise). I had the update sent to me to specifically run a plasma system and there wasn't much improvement.

    I'm emailing the company to resolve the few issues I've encountered and hopefully provide some positive feedback. Doesn't help that there's a huge time difference between AUS and the US, lol.

    I think the system shipped a little early before making them run-ready. it does show some promise once the bugs get resolved.

    The instructions do show that they connect to Clearpaths. I do have a Clearpath driven 3 axis router ( ) and those motors connected to the signal outputs like any other stepper system I messed with so I don't think there will be any issues with that. Not sure if the Masso is configured for the collision detection interrupt from the Clearpath since I don't have the mill/router software.



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    Default Re: Any User Input?? - Hind Technologies / Masso HTG5A1S Controller

    I don't like to criticize but this is a little frustrating. This is a decent chunk of money and so far the problems are compounding. If you're thinking about getting a Masso, I advise to wait until some of these problems are resolved. Or maybe it's me? I don't know but there isn't much out there to support this.

    I purchased through the US supplier, CNC4PC. It wasn't even wrapped. It showed up in a box with a single sheet of bubble wrap lying underneath the unit with the Masso pressed against the box just asking to be damaged from shipping. Pathetic. $500 and you can't even wrap the unit entirely with ten cents worth of bubble wrap?

    Like I said in the last post, I just have it rigged on the bench to test before I go through the hassle to tear apart my working plasma table.

    I'm assuming whichever version (plasma, mill, lathe) you order, you get the mill (I ordered the plasma version but the interface was for mill). I still wanted to give it a shot because I was excited to have this unit after having seen it on Neo7CNC's YouTube video.

    I logged in using the default password and browsed the screens. So far looks pretty good. I checked out the setup screen (F1) but couldn't find the I/O setup screen like what's shown in Hind's YouTube video. I know he says it's what's to come for 2017 but what good is it if I can't even configure my I/O's? Maybe it's in the latest software update so I'll push that off for now.

    I wasn't going to dive too deep into this unit right now since I believe I needed the latest software to do anything. I figure I could at least set the time. Instructions say to go into MDI and type the time in a specific format. I do it but nothing happens.

    I give it a break and contact Hind for the latest plasma update. It arrives and I install it without any issues.

    The Masso boots up and the screen format changed for a plasma setup which starts to seem promising.

    I go back into the setup screen but nothing has changed. No I/O screen and no way to slave and axis.

    I spend a while trying to select/unselect the checkboxes in the setup screen but I can't figure it out. The online documentation says nothing. I eventually catch it in one of Hind's YouTube video that you use the spacebar. Ok, so that works.

    Figure I want to try and jog (simulate jogging) the machine (it's not hooked up but I do have a spare G540 and steppers that I'll hook up later).

    Well, the Masso booted up with the axes in different positions so I wanted to zero it. Instructions say to hold CTRL+ALT+0 to zero all the axes. Nothing. Well, let me try to Home it (CTRL+ALT+Home). The Masso starts to jog but after a second it alarms for a Homing Error. Ok, how do I clear the alarm? Nothing in the instructions. I tried cycling the E-stop. Nothing. So I cycle power. I tried homing and zeroing numerous ways but nothing works to ready the machine. I can load a file but I can't run it because I can't ready the machine because it can't home. I get the machine's position to X0 Y0 Z0 and even in the setup I have the home set identically but the machine won't say it's at home.

    Jogging doesn't even jog. It starts to move for a few increments but stops. I have to tap to move the axes. Not convenient at all.

    I can set the time now.

    I emailed Hind about these issues a couple days ago so I'll do my best to remain patient.

    I just discovered something else. After the Masso boots up, you log in and then need to cycle the E-stop to clear the alarm; a great safety feature. Well, I found out you can still jog the machine even with the E-stop alarm activated. Not good. However, after you do cycle the E-strop and then activate it again, then it does freeze the axes.

    I hope Hind is working hard to fix these issues.

    I don't want to turn people away because I really want this thing to work. Once it has the bugs fixed, it has potential to be the best out there.



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    Default Re: Any User Input?? - Hind Technologies / Masso HTG5A1S Controller

    Once it has the bugs fixed, it has potential to be the best out there.
    Unfortunately, it sounds like it's got quite a ways to go.
    Being the second version they've produced, you'd think it would be pretty close to ready right out of the gate.

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    Default Re: Any User Input?? - Hind Technologies / Masso HTG5A1S Controller

    Hind said they'll be releasing a new update this week which should expand the controllers capabilities.



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    Default Re: Any User Input?? - Hind Technologies / Masso HTG5A1S Controller

    Quote Originally Posted by rbmgf7 View Post
    Hind said they'll be releasing a new update this week which should expand the controllers capabilities.
    Any more update on this, im quite tempted to buy one, just not till they have a few more features (backlash compensation, probing etc...)



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    Default Re: Any User Input?? - Hind Technologies / Masso HTG5A1S Controller

    Same here, I'm sitting on the funds, but very reluctant to jump in. It's been well over a month, so I hope rbmgf7 had a good outcome with this.

    edit: THIS is exactly why I'm sitting on my $$. Software upgrades are great, I have absolutely no issue with that. But what happens 6 months after I order one, and they have a (yet another) hardware update? I'm now stuck with beta hardware, while they are moving forward with new features that may not be available to me in future software upgrades. I expect this in phone technology. I don't want this in my CNC controller technology. I think I just talked myself out of this controller, at least for the time being. I hate it when people release underdeveloped, incomplete technology, with the promise of upgrades.

    After further research, I sort of get why they launched the product. Their kikstarter (or whatever it was) funding fell way short of their goal, but they apparently had enough to get seed funding and went to production anyway. Good for them, not so good for those buying beta product that's subject to hardware changes so early on. They had a previous version all-in-one controller, so it seems a little strange they crowd-funded the new version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imation View Post
    Any more update on this, im quite tempted to buy one, just not till they have a few more features (backlash compensation, probing etc...)
    I haven't had time to mess with it. I was hoping for a relatively turnkey system when I bought it.

    I did receive the second update but I still need to load it.

    It is concerning that there isn't much talk about this unit elsewhere nor any new YouTube videos demonstrating the hardware.

    In the meantime, save your money.



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    Default Re: Any User Input?? - Hind Technologies / Masso HTG5A1S Controller

    I bought one. I like it.
    It loads up in less than 30 seconds and seems really stable.
    No windows and no constant need to update the firewall.
    Fairly capable with most of the G code that I need to run my programs.
    Canned drilling cycle were added in the latest update.
    Lots of inputs and outputs to run everything I could ever want including alert lights.

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