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    Thom Carr Mach

    Hi Everyone,
    I have a machine from TC and like other people had some problems with the setup. I think Mike is right you can have problems but if you take your time and talk to Thom he will help you thrue them. I use my machine just for hobby right now. I have made 2d and 3d parts with very little problems. I have sent Thom pics of some of my parts. I have played around with speeds and feeds and also wood types to get the best results. I am very happy with my machine and with the support from Thom. I would advise people to get this machine. Just a thought as everyone knows everyone has an opinion on the Internet not all are good. Read the information and make up your own mind. Just my thoughts. By the way I have made about 50 parts in the last year, no problems
    Thanks


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    POS

    Yes, The machine was a POS. Thom promised to refund me and send me updates but never did. I would avoid this machine unless he ships it to you on trial. Buyer beware until these get much better.


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    Well, since I'm here and posting it's obvious that not all is well.

    I'm new to cnc so I've been blaming at least 80% of my Art Routers failings on myself. That being said, it seems to me that so much of what has caused trouble with my machine stemmed from things that shouldn't happen. Screws loose (a little lock tite, some attention to details and it's solved) terrible printer cable (15' gold foil shielded one at digilink for $10 solved that) excuses instead of answers and not real good follow through on what's been agreed upon. Machine was w/o a router when it arrived and even though a resolution was agreed too, there's been no follow through. I had a whole paragraph of opining for you all to read, I'll be a bit more patient before that is needed.

    I'll delay criticism of the machine till I feel more qualified to speak to it. Thom has been a great guy for the most part but follow through needs to improve.

    At this point, think of the art router as what you'd get if Harbor Freight sold CNC's. Not terrible but you get what you pay for.

    Also is my feed rate controlled entirely through g code or is there a universal setting in Mach3 that I can tweek to slow all jobs down? I'm using V Carve for now to render everything I carve.


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    you initially set feedrates within your toolpathing for each tool, but mach 3 also allows you to speed up or slow it down in the dialog marked "feedrate"


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    If you need or want help Holler at me

    Boiler 13,

    If you are having problems with Thoms machine and want some help feel free to holler at me via email. I may not get to it for a while but I will eventually. I own 2 of his machines and they run day in and day out for me.

    Why am I offering help. Because Thom has gone out of his way for me time and time again.

    You might check out some of my previous posts in this forum, as I had some issues when I first started and the solutions and calibrations I found are listed here.






    Quote Originally Posted by boiler13 View Post
    Well, since I'm here and posting it's obvious that not all is well.

    I'm new to cnc so I've been blaming at least 80% of my Art Routers failings on myself. That being said, it seems to me that so much of what has caused trouble with my machine stemmed from things that shouldn't happen. Screws loose (a little lock tite, some attention to details and it's solved) terrible printer cable (15' gold foil shielded one at digilink for $10 solved that) excuses instead of answers and not real good follow through on what's been agreed upon. Machine was w/o a router when it arrived and even though a resolution was agreed too, there's been no follow through. I had a whole paragraph of opining for you all to read, I'll be a bit more patient before that is needed.

    I'll delay criticism of the machine till I feel more qualified to speak to it. Thom has been a great guy for the most part but follow through needs to improve.

    At this point, think of the art router as what you'd get if Harbor Freight sold CNC's. Not terrible but you get what you pay for.

    Also is my feed rate controlled entirely through g code or is there a universal setting in Mach3 that I can tweek to slow all jobs down? I'm using V Carve for now to render everything I carve.


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    I've been plugging away at the machine until about a week ago. I have had a few nice results with it and I am getting better each day at the software side of this. Calibration has been iffy for me still but I've gotten a handle on it and I think I just need to set a routine about how I zero and how often I tighten and lubricate things and it will be fine.

    Thom followed through on the last part of our transaction within hours of my last post so all is good on that front.

    I have a serious family issue (sick kid) that may take years to resolve so I'll be out of the cnc game for the time being so don't take my opinion as gospel for now (that will come back to haunt me someday I know).


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    Sorry to hear about the kid

    Hello Boiler13,

    Glad to hear things are moving along. I knew you would get it running.

    I'm sorry to hear about your child, I hope it is nothing serious.

    Hope all goes well for you and your family.

    Best Regards,
    Mike


    Quote Originally Posted by boiler13 View Post
    I've been plugging away at the machine until about a week ago. I have had a few nice results with it and I am getting better each day at the software side of this. Calibration has been iffy for me still but I've gotten a handle on it and I think I just need to set a routine about how I zero and how often I tighten and lubricate things and it will be fine.

    Thom followed through on the last part of our transaction within hours of my last post so all is good on that front.

    I have a serious family issue (sick kid) that may take years to resolve so I'll be out of the cnc game for the time being so don't take my opinion as gospel for now (that will come back to haunt me someday I know).


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    Quote Originally Posted by hh4bt9g6 View Post
    Finally we agree on something,

    Cleaning my equipment is long overdue.

    Happy New Year.

    lol


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    Angry Read before you buy an "ART ROUTER" by Thom Carr

    I have found these ART ROUTER machines by Thom Carr to be a very BIG purchase mistake the gears are PLASTIC only one gear and rack was steel and that was on the Z axis, the racks are homemade from black ABS PLASTIC not a precision rack and gear match, the underside bearing surface of both side rails is also plastic, the bearings for the most part are glued to plastic rod while some are pressed on a steel rod which was not even the right size and had been ground down to fit the bearing on it. I have been working on rebuilding one of the expensive wrecks. I will post photos of the parts that were used on this so called CNC machine. Due to the CHEAP materials used, this machine was never even used, not once for fear of a possible 30,000 rpm missile which could cause serious injury or worse. With this said I will in the coming weeks start posting pictures of what the parts look like as well as the materials used to put this contraption together. So you can make an informed decision about any thoughts of a purchase. There is only one thing I can honestly say that is good about this mess and that is its design. Hope this helps prevent another $2,000.00 - $3500.00 mistake


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    Quote Originally Posted by Plazmo View Post
    I have found these ART ROUTER machines by Thom Carr to be a very BIG purchase mistake the gears are PLASTIC only one gear and rack was steel and that was on the Z axis, the racks are homemade from black ABS PLASTIC not a precision rack and gear match, the underside bearing surface of both side rails is also plastic, the bearings for the most part are glued to plastic rod while some are pressed on a steel rod which was not even the right size and had been ground down to fit the bearing on it. I have been working on rebuilding one of the expensive wrecks. I will post photos of the parts that were used on this so called CNC machine. Due to the CHEAP materials used, this machine was never even used, not once for fear of a possible 30,000 rpm missile which could cause serious injury or worse. With this said I will in the coming weeks start posting pictures of what the parts look like as well as the materials used to put this contraption together. So you can make an informed decision about any thoughts of a purchase. There is only one thing I can honestly say that is good about this mess and that is its design. Hope this helps prevent another $2,000.00 - $3500.00 mistake
    plastic gears where? which version machine do you have? the only gears i see are in metal.


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    Angry

    The PLASTIC GEARS are inside the PLASTIC X & Y axis housing along with the PLASTIC ROD used for the bearings.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Plazmo View Post
    The PLASTIC GEARS are inside the PLASTIC X & Y axis housing along with the PLASTIC ROD used for the bearings.
    show us pictures before you have a heart attack and explode, i dont have any "PLASTIC GEARS" so im not sure what your talking about. ( housing parts in ABS but not a big deal. ) it uses a rack and pinion setup its simple metal gear on motors/shaft and steel gear rack. so im confused when you are saying it has "PLASTIC GEARS". SHOW US PICTURES


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