Need Help!- Biesse rover

[Mario B]

Hi Battwell,
My controller is a NC481.
What will it cost me te get the software you are talking about ?
I don't think I can affort to invest 20.000€, on the other side, the guy I have talked about, the one that can program my CNC... he is putting hours and hours into that machine... I can not watch this any more.
You also talk about a refit of the controller. Do you know anyone who does ?

What I want to do with it ?
I want to do 2D and if possible 3D.
The guy from Alphacam asked how many axes I can steer simultaneously and we did he test.... X-Y and Z at the same time.

[battwell]

software to read and write disks is £599
its not a cad program but it does allow on screen editing and rewriting.
the nc 481 is the same as i have... its old hat! it has an 11k limit on program size which equates to approx 400 lines if your lucky so absolutely useless for anything more than the simplest 3d stuff. for 2d panel work its quite adequate. i make some quite complex parts! all 2d but with z ramping etc so 2.5 d i suppose!
i write all my programs by hand into the controller as i like to beat the machine... it tried to beat me for the first few months!
if you are making similar products its easy to program parametrically when you get used to it so you just change a few numbers to make different sizes etc. eg kitchen doors, stair parts etc
im working on a refit for mine . theres a lot more to it than first meets the eye! it wont be cheap!

give me an example of a few of your products, il see if i can help cut your programming costs!

[battwell]

a breakdown of what the program can do.

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If you have Biesse cnc machines read on.

A solution to a long time problem with the biesse cni controller file format
This gets rid of the need to use old programs like rtcom which will only run on old pcs.

Until now it has been virtually impossible to read and write floppys from the biesse controllers in normal modern pcs.
It is written to run under Java. Will run in any PC with windows. Which supports usb and floppy.(you may have to download and install Java on your PC)

The program written runs within a dedicated (but encrypted for copyright) usb stick. So allows you to use in and backup onto any PC you own or use.

It allows you to

Read in a floppy disk into a full editor with both routing and drilling sections seperated. The drilling sections separate into a complete drilling table!
Also shows full optimised drilling section seperately in editor.
Read in an image which has been save to PC.
Write an image of complete floppy to PC. (allows you to back up all data on PC)

Import a cad postprocessed file in any text file format. I.e.. .txt .tap .cnc etc from PC
The editor opens so you can then see what gcode is going to be written, which can be manually edited and saved if required.

One click button to format a disk in cni format . (for use in controller)

Full commands available.

New allows you to manually write or copy/paste blocks of program text to make a new program in the editor
Import imports a file from PC into the editor for checking/editing or saving to disk
Add to floppy adds programs in the editor to the floppy section for writing
Delete deletes a program in editor


Read read a floppy written in controller in PC floppy drive, opens in editor. All programs neatly listed by program name.
Write write a floppy with whatever programs you choose from list.
Read image reads an image (backup) of floppy written and saved to PC previously
Write image writes a full backup image of all programs from floppy or editor.
Format quickly format a floppy to cni format for use as a blank disk directly in controller.
Save program copies programs listed in editor to floppy program list section for writing
Delete program deletes a single program from floppy list before writing
Clear clears totally the floppy program write list. For convenience- clear all and start again!

All programs can be saved directly to the usb stick too, allowing you to write a backup image on any PC your using, so makes it really quick to share files with other users. (or as I do, I cad and postprocess files at home and take the usb stick to work to use, simply writing the floppy on my office PC)
The written image files can be emailed to another user anywhere in the world who can then copy to disk and run on their machine if they have the same program to write the floppy

the only thing which wasnt implemented when ive tested it was editing subroutines. which may have been done now.

if your in the UK im happy to demonstrate it to you at my workshop.
if you wish to purchase the fully working program, i can arrange that also :-)

[berne935]

Hi there! I have a Biesse 335 Rover CNC machine. However, i was told we cannot do anything about the floppy problem. I am optimistic somewhere out there can help.

Bernie

[Mario B]

Originally Posted by berne935 Hi there! I have a Biesse 335 Rover CNC machine. However, i was told we cannot do anything about the floppy problem. I am optimistic somewhere out there can help. Bernie

Hi there,
I have solved the problem for some time now.
We have a drawingsoftware on a PC. The software writes our drawing in G-code automaticly on a floppy. (with the proper format) I just have to put the floppy into my CNC.
Everything works fine... and I can create anything I want now.
It's almost 2 years now that I didn't write 1 single line of G-code...