my feelings are the same as yours. And recently I noticed their website shows some of their latest improvements and some new products. A very nice machine. But, as you said, where are all the Ironman users hanging out? I have looked for almost two years and drooled over their desktop but cannot get out the credit card yet. I notice their website doesn't show pictures of their products. It is a computer rendering and all the more reason I want to locate a users group or someone who has used the product for a while. I don't see any advertisements or any kind of activity from them or users of _any_ of their products. The equipment just looks too nice for it to be this way. Please share anything you learn and I will do the same.