CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > WoodWorking Machines > Commercial CNC Wood Routers


Commercial CNC Wood Routers Discussion Commercial CNC Wood Router Machines here!


This forum is sponsored by:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Ban this user!
Old 04-22-2005, 04:18 PM
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: usa
Posts: 66
Paul in OK is on a distinguished road
Servos or steppers

Hi all. Am looking at buying a machine from k2cnc, probably the 25x25 model, and was wondering about the best way to go in the drive department.
Thanks
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #2   Ban this user!
Old 04-22-2005, 04:44 PM
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: usa
Posts: 156
cnc2k is on a distinguished road
Hobbycnc= Good
Xylotex=Better
Gecko=Best
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #3   Ban this user!
Old 04-22-2005, 04:53 PM
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: usa
Posts: 66
Paul in OK is on a distinguished road
Guess I should have said in the motor department. Is one any more 'trouble' to use than the other? Most reliable and repeatable. (servo vs. stepper)
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #4   Ban this user!
Old 04-22-2005, 06:44 PM
DieGuy's Avatar  
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 420
DieGuy is on a distinguished road
I heard a good explaination some place.

Steppers are like Diesel Trucks. Not much to go wrong and cost is better.
Servos are like Ferrari's. Perform like mad but you get to pay for it.
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #5   Ban this user!
Old 04-22-2005, 08:50 PM
Bubba's Avatar  
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: LaGrange, GA USA
Posts: 1,303
Bubba is on a distinguished road
I have heard that servos are better depending on the load. Mariss has put out his ideas on the web several times (I don't remember where), but it if the load is above a certain point?? servos are better and with light loads, steppers are better.

All I know is I have servos on my mill/drill and I am happy
__________________
Art
AKA Country Bubba (Older Than Dirt)
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #6  
Old 04-22-2005, 09:48 PM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: USA
Age: 52
Posts: 672
Halfnutz is on a distinguished road
I have been trying to sort this one out from day one. Servos seem like a complete pain in the butt. Stepper technology has gotten much better recently. I dont know which way is best for you, but my direction seems to be leaning towards BIG steppers, ie overpower the thing so that load becomes less of an issue, and missing steps is an impossibility. Ive been looking at these 1400 oz/in 1.5a, 3V steppers I found for 175.00 ea. I cant imagine running out of torque with a motor like that. I dont like the idea of having to mess with encoders and tuning and seperate drivers. If I new what servos to buy it would be easier, the whole encoder thing has lost me, and if there was a single board multi axis driver available the cost would drop from 300.00 or more per axis to something reasonable. Good luck.
__________________
Halfnutz

(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #7   Ban this user!
Old 05-15-2005, 12:05 PM
tauscnc's Avatar  
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: IL
Posts: 297
tauscnc is on a distinguished road
Hey Paul,

First do look at the KG-3925. I know the price difference is pretty good but it really is a "better machine" (granted mine still had some errors). I don't know what your planning to cut with it. I had the 2525 and went to the 3925.

As for steppers, I am using 180 oz steppers on my 3925 and it's doing well. You can see my machine here. If you flip the pullies around the speed is rather fast and the stepper motor does not need to turn as fast so the torque stays high. Of course the resolution is lower but it is still at .001" (or if your a metric man like me .0254 mm) if I recall. Saying that, 640 oz/in nema 34 steppers from homeshopcnc would do the trick very nicely.

Keep us posted on your machine

taus
__________________
Thanks,
tauseef
www.cuttingedgecnc.com
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #8   Ban this user!
Old 11-04-2005, 07:57 PM
tauscnc's Avatar  
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: IL
Posts: 297
tauscnc is on a distinguished road
Well hopefully I will be able to give a first hand experience soon. I switched out my 180 oz/steppers for the 640 oz steppers and found that they also did not work as well as planned. I don't blame it on the steppers but more the computer/steps from it (or mach 2). The funny thing is I tried a 2.1 GHz computer and did not have better sucess. So in the event of not wanting to loose steps (or in greed for more speed ,don't know which one I bought the servo motors from K2 and Gecko 320s. I have the geckos and should have the motors soon.

Now I have ONLY ran a stepper system since I started machining and have had good luck with it. It will be interesting to see how the servos do.

will keep ya posted.

taus
__________________
Thanks,
tauseef
www.cuttingedgecnc.com
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #9   Ban this user!
Old 11-14-2005, 03:06 AM
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: US
Posts: 15
Hardywood is on a distinguished road
easy one. Servos. and if you can't afford them go with micro stepper.
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #10   Ban this user!
Old 11-17-2005, 04:11 AM
tauscnc's Avatar  
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: IL
Posts: 297
tauscnc is on a distinguished road
Having tried both I say get the servos with the gecko 320s. Great!
taus
__________________
Thanks,
tauseef
www.cuttingedgecnc.com
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What all parts to convert cnc jr to servos? blazer928 Servo Motors and Drives 3 11-15-2006 02:01 PM
Servos pausing and starting InsaneEPP Servo Drives 9 03-15-2005 09:45 PM
Servos, steppers, drives and encoders, Oh my MobilDave Servo Motors and Drives 1 09-10-2004 08:04 AM
Servos or Steppers..... and other gecko related questions UKRobotics Gecko Drives 11 04-19-2004 03:14 PM
steppers vs. servos twombo Machine Problems, Solutions , Wireless DNC, serial port 10 06-10-2003 03:43 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:26 PM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353