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    Default Re: Review - Bodor Laser BCL1309XU

    Trust me, I panicked and was actually pretty upset when I first got my laser and found out that it had a clear shield. I thought it had to be yellow safety glass. I spent a long time researching and getting quotes on having one made out of laser safe glass. Then I called a company called Laser Safety and got in touch with one of their engineers. He explained the wavelength stuff to me at that point, and informed me that 1/4" acrylic was more than adequate to block the 10,600nm wavelength of the CO2 laser. I actually did get a pair of "laser safe glasses" when I purchased my laser which I use occasionally if there is a particularly bright light when I am cutting. The "sun spots" it can cause are uncomfortable, but a good pair of polycarb sunglasses with tint will cut that glare down too.

    Even if you get an open-bed laser, you should be fine if you wear safety glasses, and have anyone that comes to see your machine wear safety glasses before you run it.

    The tinting is still a good idea tho.

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    Default Re: Review - Bodor Laser BCL1309XU

    Wade, is the laser you have the reci s4 rated 100w and peaks at 130w?

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    Default Re: Review - Bodor Laser BCL1309XU

    I think I'd be better off with a smaller fully enclosed laser cutter, one of the BCL-X machines. The only problem is Bodor won't sell me one as they have a UK agent selling these exclusively. As I was initially interested in a large bed cutter, they seem keen to sell me this and are not forthcoming about their UK agent details, saying they will be more expensive. But at the moment they won't give me the details of the Uk agent, which seems weird as they are obviously supplying them, so make their profit margin either way. I may now look at other Chinese made machines.

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    Bodor did not gave me either details about the Greek supplier that i know it exists. When i asked them why, they did not reply. Weird also...



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    Default Re: Review - Bodor Laser BCL1309XU

    Are Bodor willing to sell you the BCL-X machine direct to you in Greece?

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    Default Re: Review - Bodor Laser BCL1309XU

    I was considering Bodor as well, but this acting sounds freaky.



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    Default Re: Review - Bodor Laser BCL1309XU

    I love my machine. Not sure what's going on for greece tho.

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    Default Re: Review - Bodor Laser BCL1309XU

    Polakis, I am talking with bodor right now, and they are surprised. If you give me the name of the person you spoke with, I will pass it on.

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    Default Re: Review - Bodor Laser BCL1309XU

    @ Yurtman Yes, they want to sell direct to me here in Greece. But if i proceed with the order i am going to make it through the dealer here that they do give me information. Silly behavior on their part

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    Default Re: Review - Bodor Laser BCL1309XU

    Hi Wade, hope you are doing well

    I have a question after some cuttings and scans i have made with this guy i told you that supplies the Bodors here.

    So, it has the Bodor desktop version with an upgraded high quality expensive laser 40W tube (not the standard that Bodor ships this laser) that makes incredible scanning but is not able to cut 4mm of plywood. Then we switched machine (G-Weike laser with 60W laser tube) that was able to cut the 4mm with difficulties but the scanning quality is not so good.

    I asked him then what would be the recipe for me that want to cut up to 4 or 6mm of plywood and scan in high quality at the same time. He told me that in order to cut this thickness i should go for a 100W laser tube BUT the scanning quality could not be as fine as the lower tubes like 40W. In other words i could not have both according to him. But i told him that 4mm thickness should not be a problem for 40 or 60W laser tubes. I see that brands like Epilog, Universal and Trotec with much less Watts 30 - 40W states that they can cut material up to 1cm! So my question is:

    1. Does these expensive lasers have other quality parts that allow thicker cuts and high scanning quality combined? Maybe much better lenses, quality laser tubes, focusing, software etc etc.
    2. Did you try to make a very fine scanning with your machine that has this big tube (130W)? And if so did you succeed? I mean can you confirm the thing he said to me that bigger Watt tubes are not able to make fine scans?

    I am very confused because i want to make very delicate things with the laser i am going to buy but also i would like to be able to cut thick plywood up to 6 or 8mm for example. So, if Bodor does not have the proper machine, it would be useless for me.

    If the above make sense.....

    Thanks in advance
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    Default Re: Review - Bodor Laser BCL1309XU

    I have had no problem making very fine engravings with my machine. Here is a picture of something I did for a customer on one of my machines (I blurred his name in the picture).

    Review - Bodor Laser BCL1309XU-findetching-jpg
    The letters are done by "scanning", while the design above and below the words is done by setting the lines to "cut" but at 9% of power so that I just get fine line drawings. I did the scan etching at 600mm/sec and about 25% power.

    I don't know about the small wattage tubes as the smallest I have ever had is 80W (my current is 130W). However, the tube does not make the etching, the lens does and how well you have the mirrors aligned. That much I do know.

    I don't know why the small Bodor doesn't cut thru 4mm ply, but it could be due to a wider beam lens? My machine I have to set it at 8mm above the material, and I have successfully gone thru 1/2" (approx 12.25mm) plywood without a problem. The longer the distance from the lens that the focal point is, the wider your beam is for doing anything with it. At 50mm (your focal point is approximate 0.004" (0.1016mm). If you go to an 80mm lens, your focal point is almost 2x wider at .008"-.010" (0.2032mm to 0.254mm) wide.

    As far as delicate things, I have taken sticky back vinyl and cut thru the vinyl, but not the paper backing. I think that is very fine. It's all in speed and power, but I have found that minimum power for my 130W tube to fire is about 7%. It won't do much, but it's enough for very delicate cuts.

    I hope that helps,
    Wade



    Quote Originally Posted by polakis View Post
    Hi Wade, hope you are doing well

    I have a question after some cuttings and scans i have made with this guy i told you that supplies the Bodors here.

    So, it has the Bodor desktop version with an upgraded high quality expensive laser 40W tube (not the standard that Bodor ships this laser) that makes incredible scanning but is not able to cut 4mm of plywood. Then we switched machine (G-Weike laser with 60W laser tube) that was able to cut the 4mm with difficulties but the scanning quality is not so good.

    I asked him then what would be the recipe for me that want to cut up to 4 or 6mm of plywood and scan in high quality at the same time. He told me that in order to cut this thickness i should go for a 100W laser tube BUT the scanning quality could not be as fine as the lower tubes like 40W. In other words i could not have both according to him. But i told him that 4mm thickness should not be a problem for 40 or 60W laser tubes. I see that brands like Epilog, Universal and Trotec with much less Watts 30 - 40W states that they can cut material up to 1cm! So my question is:

    1. Does these expensive lasers have other quality parts that allow thicker cuts and high scanning quality combined? Maybe much better lenses, quality laser tubes, focusing, software etc etc.
    2. Did you try to make a very fine scanning with your machine that has this big tube (130W)? And if so did you succeed? I mean can you confirm the thing he said to me that bigger Watt tubes are not able to make fine scans?

    I am very confused because i want to make very delicate things with the laser i am going to buy but also i would like to be able to cut thick plywood up to 6 or 8mm for example. So, if Bodor does not have the proper machine, it would be useless for me.

    If the above make sense.....

    Thanks in advance
    Polis




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    Default Re: Review - Bodor Laser BCL1309XU

    In the left side of the pic it is the fine scanning i mean and the comparison is the 2 carrots. The right carrot is the other machines scan that is not so good for me. Same wood form the very same piece, different results even in colour.....

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