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Old 05-28-2010, 05:54 PM
 
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Tornado 200

Just picked up a used Tornado 200 from a running shop. We are ready to power it up and one of the manuals says to check phase of wiring. Is this unit phase dependant perhaps to drive a hydraulic motor the proper direction? The manuals I have do not cover this topic.
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I have Clausing storm 80 the hydraulics are phase dependent . On mine the fan cover for the hydraulic motor has has a red arrow sticker indcating with way the motor should turn. Stick a piece of paper in the fan and power up the machine then you can tell witch way the fan is turning. If its wrong it will shortly trip a breaker and throw up an alarm.

Also behind my machine not sure on yours theres a panel on the bottom next to the coolant tank . Behind it there is a transformer it has setting for different voltages 220, 230,250, 480, set it to your voltage.
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Thanks, I found the arrow on the fan this morning and checked rotation, its ok. Unit was connected to 240 3ph which I have. I turned the control on and I get the Not Ready error, 401 VDRY velocity drive off error, lost pressure error, and turret overheat error. Reset doesn not clear any of them. I tried contacting the prev owner but he was not available. Hyd fluid shows up on the dip stick, but at the very bottom. The hyd do not come on when I push the control ON button. There is a relay that kicks in when I push the ON button, but turns right off when I release it, so that tells me there is another fault somewhere I need to clear. I am by myself and have no elec schem so I can't see what relay / unit is coming on when I have the ON button depressed.

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I don't know what to tell you on that one . Have any of your breakers in the cabnet tripped. Tuesday call Clausing they have always helped me.
Clausing service 1-513-745-2222.

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showth...t=61856&page=2
http://www.cnczone.com/vb...m-help-123943/
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Hey thanks for the links, I have not been on the PM forum lately. I am going to run through the basics on incoming power just to eliminate that. We did move the machine from another location and I checked the boards and connections. I did not remove and re-seat any boards, just pushed them a bit. I've got the service number and contact from prev owner, but normal people are on vacation right now......
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Needle in the haystack

Talked with Clausing tech sup today and he said it was like finding a needle in the haystack....So, prev owner stopped by yesterday and said hyd pump is not coming on. He switched positions of three relays behind the panel disconnect but that did not help. Power comes into the main 100 amp disconnect and goes from there to a contactor K10 and to the transformer under the bed. The main contactor is not coming on and I can not see the ID numbers on the transformer under the bed to see how it is connected.
When I turn the power switch on at the door, K13 contactor closes. This runs to the motor that has a belt to the spindle. The fan on the end of the motor runs. When I check power on leads UWV to this motor, I get no reading. Zero. No AC, no DC. How does the fan run? Contactor K10 is not on. This is the main contactor under the 100 amp breaker. When we push the green control power button on the control panel we get 1022 Turret overheating, 1027 Pressure lost, and 401 Vdry (off). The power supply module has the -- not ready bars, the Spindle Amp has flashing -- bars, and the Servo Amp has --not ready bars. I did remove the back covers and manually moved the spindle and slide back and forth a bit. I have not been able to manually move the turret yet. Any ideas?
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Have you got the serial number please?
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Serial Number is: C20031
No. C20031/00030
Wiring Diagram: C2-050
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So it's a Mk I Tornado 200.

The most likely fault is a failed E-Stop module. Part number XT-0007 which you can obtain from Clausing's Spares Department.
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E Stop

That would make sense, because the power is not coming on to the system. The E-Stop button registers on the control screen when it is activated and de-activated, would that still make sense? Is there an ID # for this module in the cabinet? Thanks for the reply, I am waiting on a call back from Tech Support and I will ask them about the module availability.
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The E-Stop module is A81 mounted on the magnetics panel A8.

I can't be 100% sure, but experience tells me it's most likely.
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E-Stop

I found a circuit board mounted behind the main door panel disconnect labeled E-Stop Module. This is where the owner said to swap out the 3 relays. He stated that they were new relays. This whole board w/relays or just the relays need to be replaced?
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