To all unhappy economy gas consumers due to price

[rodneydeeeee]

GAS WAR - an idea that WILL work


This was originally sent by a retired Coca Cola executive. It came from
one of his engineer buddies who retired from Halliburton. It ' s worth
your consideration.


Join the resistance!!!! I hear we are going to hit close to $4.00 a
gallon by next summer and it might go higher!! Want gasoline prices to
come down? We need to take some intelligent, united action. Phillip
Hollsworth offered this good idea.


This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain day"
campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just
laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt"
ourselves by refusing to buy gas. It was more of an inconvenience to us
than it was a problem for them.


BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can
really work. Please read on and join with us! By now you're probably
thinking gasoline priced at about $1.50 is super cheap. Me too! It is
currently $2.79 for regular unleaded in my town. Now that the oil
companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the
cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50 - $1.75, we need to take
aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control themarketplace....
not sellers.
With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need to
take action. The only way we are going to see the price of gas come down
is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas! And,
we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. How? Since we all rely on our
cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we CAN have an impact on gas
prices if we all act together to force a price war.



Here's the idea:


For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two
biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are not
selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they
reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.


But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon and
Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do! Now, don't wimp out at this
point.... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach
millions of people.


I am sending this note to 30 people. If each of us sends it to at least
ten more (30 x 10 =3D 300) ... and those 300 send it to at least ten
more (300 x 10 =3D 3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reaches
the sixth group of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION
consumers. If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten
friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it
goes one level further, you guessed it..... THREE


>>>>HUNDRED MILLION >>>>PEOPLE!!!


Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all. (If you
don't understand how we can reach 300 million and all you have to do is
send this to 10 people.... Well, let's face it, you just aren't a
mathematician. But I am, so trust me on this one.)



How long would all that take? If each of us sends this e-mail out to ten
more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could
conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!!


I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you?


Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you,
please pass this message on. I suggest that we not buy from EXXON/MOBIL
UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $1.30 RANGE AND KEEP THEM DOWN.


THIS CAN REALLY WORK.

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[joecnc1234]

They tried this last year and I'm not sure it did anything. We don't have too many Exxon or Mobil stations in Tucson so I didn't have a hard time complying.
So I'll continue to not buy gas from Exxon/Mobil. If you do the math on their profits and all the other companies profits I think it adds up to approx. $1600 per U.S. driver per year. sickening
Joe

[Splint]

In all honesty do you really think the oil companies will allow themselves to be manipulated by the general public? All this will do, at best, is force the oil companies to have a smaller spread of prices with their competitors. They will never cut themselves short of a profit, they have a captive market and compete without really competing. They just sit around the table and carve up the pie.
Oil companies never loose, NEVER.

[cdlenterprises]

The only way to drop prices is not to buy ANY....period! Instead of firing up the boat with twin 350's for a blast down the lake this weekend, paddle a kayak or a canoe. Park the RV(5 mpg) and throw a tent onto the back of the Harley(50 mpg) and go camping. Oh and make sure you shut the lights off (and the tv, and the xbox, and the espresso machine, and the stereo, and the jacuzzi, and ....) when you leave. There are still alot of oil fired power plants in the country.

No matter how expensive gas and oil gets bottom line is that WE'RE STILL BUYING IT!!! Demand controls the price and demand isn't slowing down. It doesn't matter where you buy it or who you buy it from, gas is produced by a handful of refineries. You can bet that all of the heavy hitters (Exxon, Mobil, Texaco, etc) in the oil world get their fair share of every gallon of gas sold regardless of who sold it. So if you don't want to pay $3.00 a gallon for gas...stay home.

[cdlenterprises]

Here is a link to a story on Yahoo! Finance about this topic. Good reading...

http://biz.yahoo.com/cnnm/070504/050...pf=family-home

[walter]

You could also hedge by buying refiners stocks..

They make money off of you, might as well make some off of them.

[pminmo]

There is one good thing about the high price of gas, it actually has people thinking about alternatives. The DIY'ers will and are leading the way to converting vehicles. PEHV's, hydrogen, biodiesel, hybrids, etc. It is also making the economics of alternatives more attractive.

[RICHARD ZASTROW]

Do you think the US oil companies and consumers aren't subsidized? Of course it's semi-hidden. You are taxed (other than fuel/road tax). The tax is moved into the "general fund". Then the oil companies get a "depletion allowance". How many other businesses get re-imbursed for the inventory they sold? They get exploration expenses removed from taxes. They don't pay the royalties owed to federal and state agencies for "drilling rights" that they bid on. If the fog were removed and everybody played by the rules, US gas at the pump wouldn't be $3.00+ at the pump, it would be closer to $8.00. Enough for today!

add: BTW how many of you had the military come in to protect youre "vital interests" for ???? billion $$$$$.

[Newby2]

In my opinion, oil companies have a fiduciary obligation to their investors to make a profit. But they have no ethical or moral obligation to the country they live in. We don't buy a loaf of bread or a dozen eggs based on the stock market; they do not change 1,2,or 3 times a day!
When asked of a politician in Michigan, Dave Camp, his response was " the government does not want to get involved in private business". But a publicly held compamy, as the oil companies are, should be held accountable. As I have expressed many times, " We are a government by business, for business". We need to get back to government by the people, for the people!
My rant for the day!
Steve

[RICHARD ZASTROW]

I do not object to a reasonable profit. 4.5% is not unreasonable. In Wisconsin, the combined fed. & state gasoline taxes are more than the profit the oil companies make (175% of oil co. profit) and they want to increase those taxes.

I would like to see the real taxes paid, the "incentives" paid, the royalties not paid, the "depletion allowance" etc. all spelled out in plain view of the public.

Oil producing countries subsidize their public gas consumption from oil income. Our government does so as well by transferring tax money around. So as usual, the consumer always pays one way or another. One of those "Think Tanks" should determine the total amount we really pay for gas with all costs included. (such as military protection of our "vital interests".)

BTW in WI gas prices can be changed only once in 24 hrs.

End Rant for Today.

[Geof]

Originally Posted by RICHARD ZASTROW I do not object to a reasonable profit. 4.5% is not unreasonable.....

Where did you get this number and is it 4.5% on turnover or 4.5% on invested capital? There can be an enormous difference between the two.

[RICHARD ZASTROW]

Last year Exxon/Mobil had a profit of US $8.4 billion. This was the highest profit ever for an American corporation. That number, while huge, was 4.5% of sales. In my home state, Wisconsin, there is a MANDATORY markup of 6% wholesale and 3% retail. Consider the inventory turnover in the world market for Exxon/Mobil products and 4.5% adds up to a fairly large number. It's almost as bad as the US federal budget. It's even more than my Social Security check.

add: Geof, I kid you not. As I left after this post at 10:28 AM, the talk show in my right ear explained how the state of Wisconsin charged a Merril WI gas station for discounting his gas prices .02 to senior citizens. He must charge 9.2% over wholesale price or go to court and be fined. Go figure.