ques on putting screw machine in my garage

[chipmaker77]

Well I started out 6yrs ago in this trade learned the old school way of doing things on screw machines. Ended up being shop forman in 4 yrs. Left that company went to full blown cnc shop and never looked back. My question is i learned on brown and sharp machines and know them inside and out but don't want to deal with the cams. Cant afford a cnc so i am considering a miyanomatic mtp or hardinge ahc which i really don't know to much about but i'm certain i can make chips with the both of them. Current employer is willing to supply the work to keep the machine busy. My ques is any pros or cons to each machine and what have your expeiriences been with these machines.

[chipmaker77]

any body have expieience with camless style screw machines non cnc controlled? Like i said making cams is a big hassle and would like to stay away from paying $$$ to have them cut. Are there any other screw machines you prefer to brown n scrap.

[DonRD]

I don't know anything about a miyanomatic mtp or hardinge ahc but when it comes to screw machines I know a little about Brown & Sharp machines and and after 2 years found out about Swiss Screw Machines and went on to learn all that I could about them. That was back in 1967 and still work with the Swiss type machines today only they are CNC. Also have 3 cam machines in my garage along with a cam cutter to make my own cams as that is as much a part of the trade as set-up and running the machines. That is if you want to be the best all around machinest you can be. When I quote a job it will always include the cost of cams as that is the way I was taught. By doing it that way you don't have to "stay away from paying $$$ to have them cut." As far as a "camless style screw machines non cnc controlled" I can only think of a hand screw machine. One can make a lot more with 3 automatics than 1 hand screw, as I never seen anyone run more than 1 hand screw at a time.

DonRd
"If you don't take the time to learn you will never earn."

[D.D.Machine]

I have had AHC`s and dsma`s and I sold them off and would never go back.
there slow, vary limited in what you can do with them, I play with a old B&S 2G and a traub tb60 now.
Have you looked at just making a small slide machine.
I ran them for years and was VARY happy with them, look up omni turn.
one can pick up a hardinge HC and make one for about $3 to $4,000

[chipmaker77]

Well ive decided to stick with what i know and get the brown and sharp have customers interested in supplying the work got a pretty good business plan started hoping to get the machine the first part of april. Any good advice would be appreciated.