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How about the devastation from Katrina?

Man I watching the news and can't believe all the damage and death. I can't believe how little this country has done for the victims as well.


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Man,

I just logged on to CNN, they have really been hit hard. I'm sure George W will pull his finger out and do something here.
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The destruction is shocking!

How did it happen that most of New Orleans got built below sea level? I can't imagine someone just coming up with the thought of throwing up a couple of flimsy dikes and pumping the water out from behind it. I imagine it must have evolved into what it became, from some small scale plan of some sort. Anyone know the history in a nutshell? A good link would do
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This is what I once heard, I can't guarantee the accuracy...

If I recall New Oleans wasn't always below sea level. It is built on a flood plain of the Mississippi. It is a sinking piece of land, and the only thing that kept it above sea level was the periodic flooding of the Mississippi that deposited silt and soil. When the dikes were built, this natural land reclaimation ceased. In fact the silt that was deposited in the plains was partially deposited in the river bed and it raised the river too.

Over time the river inched higher, dikes were raised and the land sank....
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Strange on tv you never hear anyone asking for God's help they are only asking the goverment for help. This may be God's wrath on the sinful city. He said he would never destroy the earth with water again but he never said he wouldnt do part of it.
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Strange on tv you never hear anyone asking for God's help they are only asking the goverment for help. This may be God's wrath on the sinful city. He said he would never destroy the earth with water again but he never said he wouldnt do part of it.
Doubt that, the Bible says time and unforeseen occurrence befalls us ALL. This is one of those occurrences.
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When they showed a scene from the stadium with all the people sleeping on beds, I couldn't help but think that scene could have been from Iraq, or Kosovo, or a whole bunch of other places in the world...

If there is one positive thing that may result from this, its that people all over this country start to realize how lucky we are that these conditions are not normal (as the are in many other parts of the world). Maybe we will start to have compassion for people in the world who live like that EVERY DAY! Just trying to think positive.

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A few thoughts...

Katrina wasn't especially deadly other than for where she hit. Given that the prediction for the next few years is more hurricanes than normal, it seems likely that some might follow the same path.

I've already heard one government official question the logic in rebuilding New Orleans just because it would be a disaster waiting to happen-again. As callous as this sounds, it has a certain logic.

The response of our government is embarrasing. We mobilize on a huge scale for every third world country that has a natural disaster. Why would we do less for our own people? It's shameful.

The insurance companies still haven't settled claims for the big Florida hurricanes-houses still have no roofs, etc. Given that these companies are really about profit, their stalling and refusing to pay are tactics designed to keep money in their pockets. It would make sense that they will pull the same hijinxs here. In the meantime thousands suffer. Can't our government put some serious pressure on these white collar crooks?

The looting is a disgrace. These people are not doing something just to survive: they are committing wholesale rape of their own community. You see them ransacking jewely stores, walking of with twenty or thirty VCRs, etc. They even had a video off a uniformed cop carrying an armfull of stuff out of a store. What is wrong with these people? I think of how these pictures portray Americans to the rest of the world and I want to hide. SHOOT ON SIGHT.

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Ok.. I was keeping quiet about it but you started me so hear goes..

First off, let me say that I have a massive amount of compassion for those who deserve my compassion.. But this post might make you think otherwise.

1) What moron builds a major city right next to a hurricane prone ocean and 12 feet below it??
2) What moron chooses to live there?

Ok.. those 2 can be debated and not really the point here.

1. People were told there is a monster of all monsters coming to kill you. You need to leave NOW NOW NOW.. Get out.. this is a huge category 5 hurricane and may produce storm surge of up to 30 feet or more!!!! Has anyone here heard of a storm with 215 mph winds?? HUH?? RUN FORREST RUN!!!!
2. The national weather service issued the strongest storm warning language in its history!!! Never before in their history did they ever issue such a strong warning using the words they used.
3. The mayor of the city declared "Mandatory Evacuation"
4. The President of the United States went on LIVE TV and said GET OUT NOW.
5. Authorities went door to door and told people to leave!!!!

Now, I realize there are people who did not have a tank full of gas to drive out of state.. They were told to go to designated shelters. (I have lots of compassion for those who are stuck in the super-dome there as they did what they were told to do) Lets get in their and save these people!!!

What kind of idiot do you have to be to stay in your home when a monster like this is coming to kill you? This just does not make sense... They had plenty of time to run away but no one wanted to. All you had to do is look at the weather channel.. The news media covered the event 24/7 all week long before it even hit!!!! Hello???? There's a strong hint there..

Ok. enough of the "Told you so" rant.. lets get to current events..
Here we have a life and death situation. Most of it is due to a lack of water. People can go a week without food. (most healthy people can), but water is a must have now. There is water everywhere!!!!!! You say its not drinkable? Make it drinkable... Make a fire, find a pot or pan and boil it... If the water is contaminated with oil or gas then you can distill the water.. Just put a lid on top of the pot or pan and lit the steam drip off.. How freaking hard is that? My wife and I do this every year when we go camping.. Every-time your wife cooks something on a stove you see the condensation on the lid of the pot or pan.. What the heck? Are these people completely ignorant or something? Someone explain this to me because obviously I must be missing something.. Am I to understand that the average person down there does not have the intelligence to perform such a basic life saving process??

The people at Wall Mart should be sued for criminal negligence for leaving behind guns and weapons when they knew that looting after a disaster is a normal thing. Looting food and water is one thing, but if I caught you walking out of a Wall-Mart with a flat screen TV, i'd shoot you myself and not lose any sleep over it.

The people who are sniping the rescue vehicles should be shot dead on site.

Man.. I am pissed off. Think of it this way. Pretend you have family down there.. Further, pretend they are poor and could not leave town so they followed instructions and walked to the super-dome for shelter and protection. Now, the super-dome as turned into a crap hole and those people need help. How do you feel knowing that your family is not getting the help they need because all resources are being spent trying to rescue morons on the roofs of their homes because they were to stupid to leave and seek adequate shelter? I would be PISSED OFF... Let them die.. Lets spend our resources on rescuing those who did what they were told to do.. Lets rescue the sick and elderly and children. Screw those morons on their roof tops.. You had your chance and you gave it up.
Ever hear of Darwinism ??? If you are going to put a gun to your own head and pull the trigger, dont expect compassion from me. I save mine for those who deserve it.

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Oh Murph! I really bit my tongue and wrote a civil post. But inside I share your sentiments. Ranting? Nah, it's exasperation and honestly I'm glad you had the nads to speak up. There were people who would have left but said they stayed because they knew there stuff would be looted if they left. This is being told by the ones who lived-many who stayed for the same reason drowned. What does THAT say-that they knew in advance? Talk about "know thy neighbor"! To say anything beyond that would risk being flamed by the Politcally Correct faction, so I'll bite my tounge. For those down there that are true victims, the question is why? The national response could have been MUCH better. Where is the response planning FEMA? Where are your priorities, Mr. Bush? Ugh! Now I'm pissed off too! Well, more pissed off!

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Murphy: I Agree 100 %

You have expressed my views almost perfectly!

Except for one little detail.....

What are they supposed to boil the water on? Those stoves under water are a real B!%CH to keep lit!
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