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    Quote Originally Posted by windom46 View Post
    Ciao pippo73, ieri ti ho risposto ma sul sito non vedo nulla, non fa niente, provo a scriverti nuovamente.
    Allora...il PRT-E1500 come controller, dovrebbe essere impostato come il PRT_E750 ma pilota il motore da 1.5KW, il mio invece è da 800W.
    Fai attenzione che anch'io avevo fatto il reset di fabbrica dopo avere giocherellato con la tastiera (d176 impostato a 1 dopo avere messo d001 a 1) e per poco non bruciavo il motore. Un amico, che mi ha dato una mano a sistemare le cose mi ha detto che il motore veniva pilotato con una potenza di 8 volte superiore al necessario, infatti scaldava tantissimo e dopo un po' saltava il fusibile sul retro.
    Nel post 23 del 03/20/2017 e nel post 25 del 03/21/2017 (allegato) trovi le modifiche che io ho fatto al reset di fabbrica. A me così funziona benissimo, unica eccezzione la velocità di rotazione impostata da PC che anche immettendo da GCODE. ad esempio M03 S12000, il mandrino dovrebbe avviarsi a 12000 giri (così faceva una volta) , invece parte sempre a 24000 giri . Manualmente invece, nessun problema. Ho già cercato in tutti i siti Italiani che trattano CNC in modo da poter confrontare i 179 parametri delle macchine vendute nel nostro paese ma sembra che le uniche due macchine vendute in Italia, siano le nostre.
    Mach3 io l' avevo impostato come spiega il manuale allegato alla macchina e funzionava. Il mio problema era che non mi finiva i lavori, ad un certo punto si fermava e non voleva saperne di continuare, ora uso LinuxCNC e più nessun problema.
    Secondo me poi, l'errore che ti da sul mandrino è solo questione di impostare i parametri corretti, specialmente d000,d002,d003,d009,d0021,d093 che io ho a 400.
    Se potessimo sentirci forse riusciremmo a concludere qualcosa di più ma non so se si possono mettere i numeri di telefono, spero comunque di esserti stato di aiuto, ciao.
    Window, Hi Hey could you translate your post to English, I can't get translator to work too read your post to help you, could you translate it and repost it? Be glad to help if I can.

    Thanks CHIMERA1960



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    OK, I apologize for the Italian post in answering to pippo73, but I struggle a lot with the English and I use Google Translator.
    So ... the PRT-E1500, as a controller, should be set like the PRT_E750 but 1.5KW engine drives it, Instead my engine is 800W.
    Be careful that I also did the factory reset after fiddling with the keyboard (d176 set to 1 after putting d001 to 1) and I almost did burn the engine. A friend who gave me a hand to fix things told me that the engine was piloted with a power of 8 times higher than needed, because it warmed up a lot and after a while jumped the fuse on the back.
    In post 23 of 03/20/2017 and in post 25 of 03/21/2017 (attached) find the changes that I made at factory reset. For me it works fine, the only exception is the PC's speed rotated by entering from GCODE. For example, the M03 S12000, the spindle should start at 12,000 rpm (as it once did), but always turn 24,000 rpm. Manually, however, no problem. I have already searched in all the Italian sites that handle CNC so that we can compare the 179 parameters of machines sold in our country but it seems that the only two machines sold in Italy are ours.
    I had set up Mach3 as the manual attached to the machine and it worked. My problem was that I did not finish jobs, at a certain point it stopped and did not want to know how to continue, now I use LinuxCNC and no more problems.
    In my opinion, the mistake that comes to you from the spindle is just to set the correct parameters, especially d000, d002, d003, d009, d0021, d093 that i have at 400.
    If we could hear you maybe we could conclude something more but I do not know if you can put the phone numbers, hopefully you've been helpless.
    Hello.



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    Quote Originally Posted by windom46 View Post
    OK, I apologize for the Italian post in answering to pippo73, but I struggle a lot with the English and I use Google Translator.
    So ... the PRT-E1500, as a controller, should be set like the PRT_E750 but 1.5KW engine drives it, Instead my engine is 800W.
    Be careful that I also did the factory reset after fiddling with the keyboard (d176 set to 1 after putting d001 to 1) and I almost did burn the engine. A friend who gave me a hand to fix things told me that the engine was piloted with a power of 8 times higher than needed, because it warmed up a lot and after a while jumped the fuse on the back.
    In post 23 of 03/20/2017 and in post 25 of 03/21/2017 (attached) find the changes that I made at factory reset. For me it works fine, the only exception is the PC's speed rotated by entering from GCODE. For example, the M03 S12000, the spindle should start at 12,000 rpm (as it once did), but always turn 24,000 rpm. Manually, however, no problem. I have already searched in all the Italian sites that handle CNC so that we can compare the 179 parameters of machines sold in our country but it seems that the only two machines sold in Italy are ours.
    I had set up Mach3 as the manual attached to the machine and it worked. My problem was that I did not finish jobs, at a certain point it stopped and did not want to know how to continue, now I use LinuxCNC and no more problems.
    In my opinion, the mistake that comes to you from the spindle is just to set the correct parameters, especially d000, d002, d003, d009, d0021, d093 that i have at 400.
    If we could hear you maybe we could conclude something more but I do not know if you can put the phone numbers, hopefully you've been helpless.
    Hello.
    Thanks windom , good post,

    CHIMERA1960



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    Hey guys, thanks for posting the PDF version of the manual. It makes things much clearer.

    CHIMERA1960, you said you had contacted a manufacturer of the board and that they were in Singapore. Can you tell me about this VFD board maker? I'm interested in the RS485 aspects of the board, and the manual isn't too detailed. For more info on RS485, it says to contact them on their "website", which obviously isn't linked in the document.
    Is it the same boards as the JD inverter that windom46 posted the manual for?



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    Quote Originally Posted by CodeBuster View Post
    Hey guys, thanks for posting the PDF version of the manual. It makes things much clearer.

    CHIMERA1960, you said you had contacted a manufacturer of the board and that they were in Singapore. Can you tell me about this VFD board maker? I'm interested in the RS485 aspects of the board, and the manual isn't too detailed. For more info on RS485, it says to contact them on their "website", which obviously isn't linked in the document.
    Is it the same boards as the JD inverter that windom46 posted the manual for?
    Hi Code, well from what I'm seeing, windom46 is trying to help pippo73 they are from italy, windom46 has the E750 controller and pippo73 has the E1500 which is what I have, but in 110v-120v input, they have different voltages, but the two controllers, I'm not share if they use the same model VFD? And the parameters are different for each, it applies to motor wattage, but if you need the E1500 parameters look at the post from gmungus he nailed it, I verified the parameters and I'm still using them and machine does work well, no motor issues getting hot under load runs cool and smooth, as far as the rs485, I thought that is a type of connector 9 pin I think, isn't it? Your welcome on the manual it was the best I could do. But use gmunguses parameters to run you machine they work. Input them just how he lists them and all will be good. Hope this helps

    Later CHIMERA1960

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    Quote Originally Posted by CodeBuster View Post
    Hey guys, thanks for posting the PDF version of the manual. It makes things much clearer.

    CHIMERA1960, you said you had contacted a manufacturer of the board and that they were in Singapore. Can you tell me about this VFD board maker? I'm interested in the RS485 aspects of the board, and the manual isn't too detailed. For more info on RS485, it says to contact them on their "website", which obviously isn't linked in the document.
    Is it the same boards as the JD inverter that windom46 posted the manual for?
    HI Code, see if these pics work for ya. They are both complete top and bottom of the VFD controller board that sits on top of the power supply in the box.

    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails 6040 CNC VFD settings?-20170607_212513-jpg   6040 CNC VFD settings?-20170603_113850-jpg  
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    Indeed, it does work. The boards seem to be identical. Whoever is making this PRT-E1500, they've made the same in any 6040's labeled with JD Inverter on their spindle controls. Mine is also wired similarly, once I figured out AVI was a 0-10V input.
    A place to look at might be those 4 pads to the immediate right of that hex inverter logic chip and below the microcontroller.
    I can't see any other place the RS485 might be available other than the front panel headers which the LED display plugs into. If you have an O-scope you might see what kind of signal is happening on those pads. Voltage differences on the A/B terminals should be +/- 200mV, if it is using RS485.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CodeBuster View Post
    Indeed, it does work. The boards seem to be identical. Whoever is making this PRT-E1500, they've made the same in any 6040's labeled with JD Inverter on their spindle controls. Mine is also wired similarly, once I figured out AVI was a 0-10V input.
    A place to look at might be those 4 pads to the immediate right of that hex inverter logic chip and below the microcontroller.
    I can't see any other place the RS485 might be available other than the front panel headers which the LED display plugs into. If you have an O-scope you might see what kind of signal is happening on those pads. Voltage differences on the A/B terminals should be +/- 200mV, if it is using RS485.
    Hi Code, yea I was thinking the same the pad by J16 micro chip, but as I was looking at the board again, the pads on the left on the edge of the board might be pads also for it, I don't have my controller with me or I would open it and look again, the wire harness for the panel mount readout is in the way in the pic, but anyway the dongle remote the XHC that I'm using works really good, I use it when I ref my work piece location on the table, its puts it right there, but I did find, you really can't or you don't want to adjust the spindle rpm while cutting a code, we found if you do try to change it, the spindle rpm default to max rpm 24000, we tryed it to see what would happen, when we are designing in artcam, the program asks for all the details of what you are making, type of material, how big work piece is, so on, then it sets the proper rpm range for the type of material your cutting, it does this automaticly, so if you try to adjust cutting speed in mach3, the code was writing for the speed the artcam software wrote it to be and if you try to change it, the program gets messed up because you went out of the parameters of the gcode made for that job. So I guess where I'm going is, I spent the money for a remote, and find its nice to have around, but you don't really use it that much I found, and if you buy a cnc controller that doesn't have the penedent option the dongle remotes work good, it all has to communications with the computer anyway, even though we both know, the VFD only controls spindle rpm, but its all tied together, it all works together with the computer. So the system is smart enough to know when you try to change something while its working. Well bottom line is we don't have the board schematic to see what does what, and we are only guessing anyway. I know we won't get that from the vendor but maybe there is a simple wire diagram in the manual on the circuit I didn't look close enough.

    Hey good stuff though, hope it helped somewhat,
    Take care CHIMERA1960

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    Default Re: 6040 CNC VFD settings?

    Would you be willing to share your LinuxCNC settings? Perhaps both machine definition files?



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    Default Re: 6040 CNC VFD settings?

    I have found the settings manual for PRT-750 & PRT-1500W VFDs.

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    Last edited by wsidebottom; 10-15-2017 at 09:34 AM. Reason: No longer looking for manual. Found it and attached it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CodeBuster View Post
    Hey guys, thanks for posting the PDF version of the manual. It makes things much clearer.

    CHIMERA1960, you said you had contacted a manufacturer of the board and that they were in Singapore. Can you tell me about this VFD board maker? I'm interested in the RS485 aspects of the board, and the manual isn't too detailed. For more info on RS485, it says to contact them on their "website", which obviously isn't linked in the document.
    Is it the same boards as the JD inverter that windom46 posted the manual for?
    There are ic's missing on the board near rs+ & rs- which are for rs485. I think there should be 2 opti-isolators and 2 resistors. I don't know what values they should be though.

    Last edited by wsidebottom; 10-15-2017 at 09:37 AM. Reason: grammer


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