These are pretty good
Or try OSG they make some great tools at a decent value
The ruffers are I believe ONYX brand, REF 7644 PMX TIALN 1/2 X 1/2 X 1 1/4 X 3 1/4. They are a 4 flute powder metal ruffer made in spain. I have been getting them for years and they are the best I have ever used especially at the price of $30.00-$31.00 each. Does anyone know who else may handle them or a comparible bang for the buck type rougher?
Thanks...I'll check them out.