Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 12 of 19

Thread: Citizen Question

  1. #1
    Registered
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    US
    Posts
    72
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0

    Citizen Question

    For the Citizen experts. Is there a way to incorporate the cutoff process and start position process directly into the program rather than having to do it manually?
    What macros does it read for the cutoff, and for the move to start position? These questions are for a L20 M7 and M8
    Thanks in advance
    Brett


  2. #2
    Registered
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    277
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Yes there is a way.

    Load the attached file into the machine and call it as a SUB program at the beginning of $1. MAKE $2 WAIT UNTIL IT IS COMPLETED.

    $1 ................................. $2
    M98P322
    !2L322 ........................ !1L322


    This is for the L7-20. There is NO M7 or M8 machine.

    You need to call the cutoff tool into position and position the stock FIRST!!
    Attached Files Attached Files


  3. #3
    Registered
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    US
    Posts
    72
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks for the reply. I new to citizens and was referring to the model # on the manuals, it says 5m7 or 5m8 which is where i got the m7 m8 from. Anyway thanks for the information. And what excatly is program 322?
    If i have to position the cutoff tool first would something like this work

    $1.................................................................$2
    IF[#5041LT0]GOTO500......................................!L322
    T0100
    G0X[#814+.05]
    M98P322
    N500
    !L322


  4. #4
    Registered
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    US
    Posts
    72
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    My goal in this scenario is to put a safety check in place in case guys forget to move to start position which seems to happen regulary.


  • #5
    Registered
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    US
    Posts
    72
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0

    OH

    Didnt see the attached file! Thank you!!


  • #6
    Registered
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    277
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    This program will got into alarm if the cutoff tool is not in position. The screen will read "Call Cutoff".
    If you do a tool call as you show it will add cycle time on EVERY cycle.

    FYI,
    5m7 = L5-20 (5th Generation L20), Type VII

    5m8 = L5-20 (5th Generation L20), Type VIII (Added capibility, Gangblock)

    See the attached file for a line-by-line explanation of what will be done by that program.

    "Train the operators, but first protect the equipment!"
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Citizen Question-m322-explained-l20-sub.pdf  


  • #7
    Registered
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    39
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0

    The M stands for Mitsubishi, F stands for Fanuc

    Quote Originally Posted by cogsman1 View Post
    This program will got into alarm if the cutoff tool is not in position. The screen will read "Call Cutoff".
    If you do a tool call as you show it will add cycle time on EVERY cycle.

    FYI,
    5m7 = L5-20 (5th Generation L20), Type VII

    5m8 = L5-20 (5th Generation L20), Type VIII (Added capibility, Gangblock)

    See the attached file for a line-by-line explanation of what will be done by that program.

    "Train the operators, but first protect the equipment!"
    Just to expand on your breakdown, M is for Mits, F is for Fanuc


  • #8
    Registered
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    31
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    I am trying to use this on my L6-32 but i am having trouble with the G53 -#818. It wants to go to minus what is in my mc data from machine zero. It is not going to the start position.


  • #9
    Registered
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    277
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    For that machine change that one line to be

    G53Z#872-#818

    The system settings are different between some models.


  • #10
    Registered
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    31
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    thank you. I am trying to learn how all this stuff works. Kinda got thrown to the wolves with the swiss machines. Learning as i go though..


  • #11
    Registered
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    31
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    I am still having problems with this on the L6-32. I changed the g53 line to #872-#818. The first time I ran the program it worked just like it should, went right to start position after cutoff. Now every time after that It wants to go forward toward the guide bushing and alarms out.


  • #12
    Registered
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    The Edge of Obscurity
    Posts
    240
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    what alarm?
    Control the process, not the product!
    Machining is more science than art, master the science and the artistry will be evident.


  • Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

    Similar Threads

    1. Need Help!- Citizen L25
      By JOlalde in forum CNC Swiss Screw Machines
      Replies: 2
      Last Post: 06-12-2010, 07:09 PM
    2. Need Help!- Citizen M32
      By shrektaylor in forum CNC Swiss Screw Machines
      Replies: 3
      Last Post: 05-28-2010, 07:04 AM
    3. Need Help!- Citizen L20
      By Tornos100 in forum CNC Swiss Screw Machines
      Replies: 1
      Last Post: 04-24-2010, 01:52 AM
    4. Citizen M series basket and counter Question
      By EdgeCrusher in forum CNC Swiss Screw Machines
      Replies: 3
      Last Post: 12-16-2009, 06:44 PM
    5. Need Help!- Citizen L25
      By appusivadas in forum CNC Swiss Screw Machines
      Replies: 4
      Last Post: 07-16-2009, 09:51 AM

    Posting Permissions



    About CNCzone.com

      We are the largest and most active discussion forum from DIY CNC Machines to the Cad/Cam software to run them. The site is 100% free to join and use, so join today!

    Follow us on

    Facebook Dribbble RSS Feed


    Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.