EDM Brands?

[cb1]

i ran a mitsu. it was my fav. also!
i've also used japax, sodik, brother, and fanuc.

[Klox]

If i had to buy a wire edm now i would go for the newest technology a can afford. Yes automatic threading is very helpfull if you do press tools with multi cavities......
It's not something that's really needed when the jobs take a couple of hours of cutting. These machines can generate good turnover if they are kept busy as much as possible. Also keep in mind that keeping them clean and in good running order takes time, a lot of time stripping down the nozzles, wire feeding mechanisms, threading mechanisms etc. I always budgeted two days a month for cleaning purposes.....
Some brands are more finicky than others. You can also check out the options of different types of wire to use, some may give up to 20% faster cutting speeds but are sometimes double in price!

[roysol]

mitsubishi -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- well if you're are looking for the best brand of edm machine. Then you would have to go with a mits. The setup time can be a big factor and mits is more user friendly then the others. Also high speed cutting can make a big difference in brand. ex: you got charmilles the you input the thickness of the part ,type of material and it runs a safe powersetting for you which would less likely break the wire. But if you can learn how a mits power setting works. You and blow the charmilles away by speed of 2 to 4 to 5 times faster.

Keep in mind that what Edm Specialist just said is unmitigated salesman propoganda. "How do you know when a salesman is lying? When his lips are moving" OK, that's old, but it's sadly too often true.

I run a Mits now, and it's ok for certain applications. I have run other machines that had various advantages, a lot depends on what type of work you do. Be careful of taking advice from those with a vested interest, especially if they don't disclose it.

Cheers!

Roy Solomon

[RICHARD ZASTROW]

My only experience is with Mitsubishi and it was all positive. I would check with www.adron.com

[edm specialist]

Hey Im no salesman. Im a edm machinist. And Im speaking from experince. Most people dont know what an Edm is, and if they do. They only know a little bit about it. Ive been arround to many different Edm companies. And most are still behind so far behind on the technology and the used of an Edm.

[Klox]

EDMspecialist, you have put it so nicely......
I have 15 years of edm behind me. A lot of people still perceive edm as "black magic". I personally feel it's one of the best methods of machining certain types of components......

[edm specialist]

Ok I think it boils down to the operator. You a got alot of different brands out and they all do work. But depending what you need it for. First they dont dont make aggies any more. They emerge with charmille. So much for the best brand. LOL!!! If you have cnc experience then you would want something that would be easy for you to learn. And a mits is the closest to any mills or lathe. The cnc codes are very similar. Not like some others where you have to type a whole sentences to make it move from x0y0 to move to x1. And if you are looking to make alot of money on it then set-up and run time is very important. Search Edm on the net. There to big all Edm comp in North America. One with over 50 edm machines and one with over 40 and they both use Mits. Well thats my argument. And good luck!

[sodickappsguy]

ok time for me to chime in. I work directly for sodick. Yes i would like you to by our machines but if your applications will not justify the price the dont by a porshe to do the job of a honda. If i was to by a machine i would stay away from any Euro machine. The reason why is there technology is outdated. Agie and charmill has merged and there is several changes happening there. I can say that mits does make a good machine but sodick also has a good machine. Prices are pretty much the same. I would by a newer machine so that you get a full warranty and all the application support to help you get started. Mits and sodick both similar codes for the movement of the machine but there power settings are different.

Once someone gets a machine brand they usually stick with it cause it is not as easy to swap over to a different brand of edm. as for the comment of 40 mits in more than one shop. That is nice but there are several shops that have 40 plus sodicks and world wide sodick has the world market share.

list of things to look for
cost (none are cheap)
wire threader (lights out is a factor to cut overhead)
submerged tank (with option to go non submerged)
ceramics if you are looking for high tolerance (chiller is also a major plus)
amount of wear parts and price (belts, carbides, cables, flush cups)
if the system comes with a cad system package.
SERVICE AND SUPPORT

mabe this will help.

[Perp]

Thank you everyone, this is a much larger response than I expected and it is great. As for the size of the work, type of material etc. we are still doing market research to see where the demand is. I really do think we will buy new if we go this route. I will keep researching, and if anyone else has comments please keep them comming.