Anyone out there working on Peddinghaus Machines

[Plasmaman]

I work with a FPB1500, Anglemaster 823, Meba Saw, BDL.

I'm interested in getting some dialog going about different aspects of these machines.

Mark

[Dale Heart]

No. But I love Peddinghaus' promotional material. I wanted to buy an angle master the minute I saw their video on it. What's that machine like?

[Plasmaman]

The Anglemaster is a great machine, probably does the work of 8 guys and a ironworker.

The only problem with our AM , it is PC controlled and the card will only support WIN98, so we have memory problems.

The new AM's are Seimens 840D Controlled and are faster.

[dickdarby]

I have an FPB1800 and would like to know what kind of conveyor systems are being used out there

[Plasmaman]

Originally Posted by dickdarby I have an FPB1800 and would like to know what kind of conveyor systems are being used out there

We built our own conveyor which unloads from the side bringing the material up to the operator outside the light curtain.

I'd send you a picture but I think our company may try to market them?

Does your machine have the Fagor or the Siemens Control?

Answer to your other question.. BDL760 and 1020 Bandsaw

We are getting a new BDL in March .. number escapes me right now.

Mark

[dickdarby]

we are using
ABCM-1250-3C coping machine- 3torch oxy fuel- Siemens controller.
Gietart shot blaster.
TDK1000/9F SAW/BDL- Siemens controller.
TDK1000/9G BDL- Siemens controller.
MEBA 1020D6P bandsaw- Siemens controller.
FPB1800 Plateline- Siemens controller.
Anglemaster 623-

I have some queries about TDK and circular saw. It is an old machine and for the last few years the saw has been running at <50% feed. We probably need a new mc. Any thoughts. FPB1800 is a good mc but jus a bigger version of FDB1000 or FPB1500.
We use flat bar 99% of the time on this mc as it is 30-40% faster than using sheet steel.

[Plasmaman]

On your FPB do you use any software other than the Peddimat program? SDS, Steel Office...? Do you cut only rectangler pieces or are you cutting odd shapes?
We use 98% Sheet Steel . We are a structural steel company, so we do many different shapes from 50mm dia round - 6mm plates with slotted holes to 2400+ wide X 5000 long.
Do you burn your slots or punch them?
I think we are looking at buying "THE RING OF FIRE" when they get the bugs worked out(if they get them worked out).

TTYL Mark

[dickdarby]

We use Steel Office software on the FPB1800.
We also are a structural steel company and do many shapes and sizes but unlike you we do not really come across large size pieces to cut.
We are trying to standardise plate sizes to speed up production on FPB so at the moment we only cut up to maybe 600mm wide plates which serves our purpose fine. On the odd ocasion we cut larger but it would probably be only once or twice per month.
To your other query if we have large quantities of plates with slots we punch them all so really we instruct draughtsmen to use only standard size slots on plates.
What is the story with the ring of fire? It used to be on Peddinghaus website but i have not heard anything recently on its prototype progress. It will surely be an amazing machine when it finally gets going.

TTYL
Peter

[Plasmaman]

I am using the SDS software but I would like to take a look at the Steel Office Software.

You wouldn't happen to have an email address or phone number to a rep of the company?

We burn all of our slots, they come out pretty good if you place leadouts in a place that when the scrap drops it doesn't redirect the arc into part being cut.

I heard they had problems with the ring of fire's head crashing?

regards

[dickdarby]

We are using Steel Office software on the FPB1800 at the moment but in a couple of months time we will have all machines transferred to this software, ie coping mc, MEBA, TDK, BDL etc. It is so much better than anything else we have encountered, but not without the normal teething problems getting set up.
Email: info@gutsch.de
It might be worth enquiring about this but it depends on what you are thinking of using it for.

[ibuz]

plasmaman

not sure why a lot more people are not using the anglemaster lines.

maybe they are and they don’t look at it as a cnc machine, as the
anglemaster machines are programmed in pedimat. the machine program
then pulls up the pedimat program and converts it to the cnc file needed
to run the machine. there is no user impute needed to run the program,
other than stock size, crop cut etc... (in the pc based machines)

the siemens controller is a complete different interface.
it runs a windows xp version that boots to the sinumerik interface operating
system. now you have windows xp sinumerik interface, and pedimat running
at the same time.

both have their pros and cons.


pc based pro’s

ability to turn on and off punches and or shear. (not bad if you need two
different hole sizes in one axes. you can shut the shear off. reprogram
and run a second time with the shear enabled)

you can use remnant first, middle or standard last (machine requirements
8” + to hold onto material)

this machine does not have the moving die holder. i can step punch with
no problems to a 6" slot. (this was verified by peddinghaus tech's as i did
a sample for a salesman and their tech guys were there going over the new
fpb2500 that we're getting. they asked for the sample and emailed back to
grind off the point on the punch and step as large as possible to avoid a
side load on the cylinder)

will keep an accurate count. (completed and needed)

can view graphic of parts being run.


pc based con’s

the machine program is pc dos based. if you alt+tab to exit to windows,
the machine will shut down. you cannot run and program at the same
time.

the number of buttons to be pushed to operate the power infeed table
and material advance will cause you to exit the machine program sometimes
and have to completely rewrite the machine program. not bad sometimes,
but if running 16 different parts on a 40’ s/l (ouch)

other than those two cons i like the pc based machine a lot. its easy to get
around. you can lie to it and say the material is precut to size if middle
remnant is a little off, and manually cut the last piece until you have time
to reset xrevhome.


siemens based pro’s

ability to program the next job, while the current program is running. (this is
a great feature)


siemens based con’s

notice there’s not a lot of pro’s

can not count period. keep a tablet handy.

cannot view graphic of parts being run. all service reps will skirt these two
subjects or change topic

you will have to go into the machine program to erase shear lines if more
than one hole size is in an axis. 40’ s/l X 40 pcs @ 1’ = 40 shear lines
would need to be removed.(no shear shut off) this is if the multi punch
head is not purchased. (who thinks of this when buying the machine)

you cannot lie to this machine as the pc based one. the pc based you say
do this and then that, the siemens based machine says i’m doing this and
then i will do that. (no options)

we have both operating systems. an early 623 with the pc based and a
later 823 with the siemens. we have the option of witch machine we want
to run on, besides the normal 6” limit on the 623 and the 12” limit on the
823. both have the 40’ power infeed tables with power material advance.
The 823 has the power outfeed and the 623 we left with the v rollers and
bridge as we like to use this for small parts to drop directly into a drum.

i run both anglemasters.
a beam camber machine.
a 12’ X 60’ burner table with a burney 5 controller, 8 oxy/fuel heads and
1 plasma head.
a 1/2 “ X 12’ accupress shear.

we’re getting a new fpb2500 plate burner. they are pouring new concrete
this week.

i’m not sure what it will be like going from a water based plasma to a dry
one, although i have run a hand plasma before. we’ll see.

we also have a lot of plate material that looks to be recovered from the
titanic, that any plasma would refuse to ignite over, without severe prep
work.

at the other end of the main warehouse we have four cnc band saws, a
cold saw that will cut a 40” beam and a shot blaster. We have 3 large
buildings and 4 small ones. one of our small ones would be equal to most shops.

[Peddinghaus2]

ibuz -

At Peddinghaus we recently released a parts tracking program that is designed for Anglemasters using the Siemens control. It will count the number of holes punched, number of times a program was run, who ran it, etc.

When it is tracking this information it can be saved anywhere, it creates a database on your network that can be viewed at any time, as well as can be viewed over the internet given the proper comlpementary software.

Your comments about the PC control are very interesting for me, and I will show them to our software engineers to see what they thing about it.

Keep the comments coming!

I love hearing about people in the field using our equipment.

Does anyone have any questions for a Peddinghaus professional you want answered? Let me know - you can contact me at marketing@peddinghaus.com as well.

We will be releasing the next generation of Anglemasters at FABTECH in Chicago as well if your interested in checking it out! Can't release any info yet but it's a cool machine - much different concept than any other Angle Line we have released before.

Take care everyone - keep it up!