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Old 04-16-2009, 02:48 PM
 
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help with Masterwood Maka winner 3.2 of 2000

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I am Kosmas Evangelos from Heraklion Creta Greece ,ι am a new byer of cnc machining center and new in this forum. Salute.

I 've just received a used masterwood-maka 3.2 winner ZBF y.o.m. 2000 from Germany.

Unfortunately it came with manual for the programming (CN10) in German language.

I need this manual in English ,can anyone help me.

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We have a 327 with a DOS CN10 control. Not sure if it's the same or not. Can't et you the manual, but I may be able to answer your questions.
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thanks

Thanks for your replay.

I am not sure either if its the same.

My machine is 2000 model but i supose that every year they must put similar programs to similar machines .

I have not connected the machine yet to now if its in Dos or not.

Also i never had a cnc machine and dont now where to start and where to end asking ,so its quite difficult to find what to ask you for the programming.

Next week i am expecting the technician to install it and learn me how to use and programing it ,but i dont have the English manual for the programing wich could help him to help me.

If you have scanned this manual in the past ,could you send it by email?

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This is all I have, a list of G and M codes.
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Gerry thank you for the codes.

I have some questions about the machine.

What type of working are you doing with your machine ,what is its y.o.m. and do you believe that it would be easier to program it if it wasnt in dos?

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It's a 1998 point to point with 2 routers, one has an ATC. We use it to machine all our cabinet parts, and also cut parts from full sheets of plywood, particle board and mdf. We also cut solid wood, mostly for curved countertop edges, but also make custom molding on occasion.

We bought it new, and I've really never programmed it at the machine. Our cabinet part programs are created automatically using 2020 Product Planner and DrillMate (formerly Pattern Systems). All custom parts are drawn in AutoCAD and code is created with CadCode. Programs are downloaded via network and called up at the machine with a barcode scanner.
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From your answer i realise that the fact that the machine is in dos is not so big problem for the programming. I can use autocad or another cad program and just use cadcode to convert the drawing for the machine.

Westerday i started only the PC of the machine and after the promt of dos it automatically loaded the CN10 ,but in German language.

Does your machine have English only or other languages too?

Because i am trying to find and load English version of CN10 if this exists standart on the PC.

Have you ever draw a 3d object (for example something like this
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Westerday i started only the PC of the machine and after the promt of dos it automatically loaded the CN10 ,but in German language.

Does your machine have English only or other languages too?
I think it was in Italian when we got it. I'll see if I can figure out how to change it. I think it's a parameter that needs to be changed.

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Have you ever draw a 3d object (for example something like this YouTube - face) and do it on the machine

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Yes, but there are some issues. One, I don't have a CAM package that will write the correct code. However, I have used Freemill with a modified post to create code. The code from Freemill has -Z moves, so I do a find and replace to get rid of -.
Second, the machine can only load a limited amount of g-code. What I do, is use Cadcode to load the g-code and export a .dxf file. I then load the .dxf back into CadaCode, and let Cadcode create the G-code, splitting the g-code into roughly 1200 line programs. I then use the M98 command at the end of the first program to load and run the additional programs from the first one. M98 will run a program from within another, so I add an M98 line for each section of code. Sometimes 30 or 40 programs.
Third, the machine has limited lookahead. It appears to be able to read only about 200 lines of code at a time. If I cut too fast, the machine will stop for a second or two while it reads more g-code. But once it does this, it will continue to pause every few seconds, because it's cutting faster than it can read the code. The solution to this is to use the FRO to slow it down to a speed where it will run smoothly. Here's a sample of some panels we made a few years ago.
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11996
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