Help me decide on what CNC i need

[JG Woodworks]

how much does their vac tables run? they included all that too

[JG Woodworks]

*in the price techno gave me* they included vac table and somewhere around a 10hp vac pump

[cncwriter]

Originally Posted by JG Woodworks how much does their vac tables run? they included all that too

Shop Sabre included the 4x8 machine, a 5HP tool change set up and a vacuum table + pump for 25K?

To answer your question, the Techno vacuum table setup for an LC 4x8 PLUS a 10HP vacuum pump is about 8.5K

Originally Posted by JG Woodworks *in the price techno gave me* they included vac table and somewhere around a 10hp vac pump

Good, our dealers should give you pricing on whatever you need

The LC starts around 20K (a little less I think), but a fully loaded LC machine is definitely more of an investment. That's why we stress tailoring a machine to your application and/or production needs. You can over-buy as easily as you can under-buy; both are avoidable if you really know what you are getting in relation to what your shop needs.

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Techno CNC Router design allows you to build onto the machine as your business grows. Retrofit a vacuum table, automatic tool change spindle, 4th axis rotary carving, laser scanning, coolant, etc. when when your business requires it.
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It can add up pretty quick, I know. And we haven't even mentioned all the choices of industry software that one must choose from. You are definitely doing the right thing by researching a purchase of this size. I travel across a few of these forums and this one is really good.

[JG Woodworks]

No the shop sabre quote did not include a vac table+vac and i checked on the prices on the techno quote and your right on the price range of their vac. Im doing as much research as i can because its not just a little pocket change, the purchase would put a good dent in the business account. I will most likely finance though, we have to have some $ left to stay in production.

[ViperTX]

Well it seems that you should evaluate whether continuing to play in the low-end market is worthwhile.

I would also determine what increase in productivity to expect and that it justify the cost and maintenance of the machine. There are other costs associated with the machine, cnc programmer/operator....

[JG Woodworks]

Well, i can sell as many doors as i can make, if it doubles production 10X production. I dont think i could loose money at all. Its just that i have a lot of $$ tied up in a few more operations that i have going on around here and i started this other deal in another state and i have someone up there managing it. My cash is just stretched thin because i have so much going on and starting up.

[ViperTX]

ger21...the link that you posted....all the doors that I looked at had mitered corners....

Basically if JG Woodworks is producing one piece mdf doors....then a CNC router might help....for sure it will make all the doors consistent.....

For mitered doors....unless they have a bunch of curves.....the shaper with sawing capability is the best route....

[ger21]

Originally Posted by ViperTX ger21...the link that you posted....all the doors that I looked at had mitered corners....

Those are all 1 piece MDF doors...No miters. The first row are raw mdf, the others are thermo foil wrapped mdf. http://www.walzcraft.com/pdf/MDFRTF.pdf

[walter]

Hello Cncwriter,

your $20k 4x8 machine sounds interesting... 5hp spindle, ballscrews, servos... lots of goodies?

what about linear rails? do you have any info on them? are they THK? I would be interested in type and symbols for these rails- also in servo motors ratings....

Any info will be appreciated!

[cncwriter]

Originally Posted by walter Hello Cncwriter, your $20k 4x8 machine sounds interesting... 5hp spindle, ballscrews, servos... lots of goodies? what about linear rails? do you have any info on them? are they THK? I would be interested in type and symbols for these rails- also in servo motors ratings.... Any info will be appreciated!

Hello Walter,

My apologies for the delayed response. We do use THK rails. As per the ratings for our servo motors, I would feel more comfortable having you speak to someone else. If you PM me your email address or phone number and your location, I can have our representative in your area answer all your questions (pricing, machine specs, applications, etc.).

In the meantime, you can go to our web site www.technocnc.com and request a free Techno Book of CAD/CAM & CNC Catalog which has our products, a nice technical section and more.

Good luck!

[dsgnkrft]

J.G.,

I am another potential Shop Sabre buyer. I have a little different applications than you but I am curious about the quote you recieved. Was the quote with or w/o a pedastal. My quote was a little higher so I am curious if your price was really accurate or am I being approached with a higher price. I rcv'd a quote for $24K w/o the vacuum set-up. Did you negotiate?

Also, to throw in my $.02, Shop Sabre appears to be a V.G. machine and about as good as you are going to do for the $$$. If you decide to move fwd on the machine, let me know how it goes.

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