I worked for the dealer that sold moris and cinci's and before that okumas. The cinci's were super lite duty, had 3 times more issues that both the okuma and moris. The 80s cinci's were animals, not that thing. 3 point casting with no leveling pads, hard drives failing all the time, duplomatic turrets that were almost impossible to fix in the field. The linear ways were tiny, ballscrews were tiny, and it goes on. I would buy a Kia or haas lathe way before one of those things, IMO.