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Gee mate I feel for you. I thought I was hard done by with a few minor issues on my Quick machine that were fixed with the kind help of another forum member. At least in general the machine seems well built. What made you pick this company?
Larry
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Well, i posted on here that i would be purchasing from china as a experiment not that i have the extra cash to loose..but be very carefull who you buy from...
To see the problems and the transactions take a look at the website i created to expose this company...
the first link is my junk that arrived
http://www.wix.com/jef047/shanghai-ruidiao-cnc
this link is the company in china
China CNC Router, CNC Engraving Machine, CNC Laser, CNC Waterjet Cutting Machine, Wood Working Machine, Stone Router Manufacturer - Shanghai Ruidiao CNC Equipment Co., Ltd.
$15,000 gone...
HE has several names and websites, not a manufacture just a guy in a room...who is making himself look like a large corporation.
Good luck
Gee mate I feel for you. I thought I was hard done by with a few minor issues on my Quick machine that were fixed with the kind help of another forum member. At least in general the machine seems well built. What made you pick this company?
Larry
this link is the company in china
China CNC Router, CNC Engraving Machine, CNC Laser, CNC Waterjet Cutting Machine, Wood Working Machine, Stone Router Manufacturer - Shanghai Ruidiao CNC Equipment Co., Ltd.
$15,000 gone...
HE has several names and websites, not a manufacture just a guy in a room...who is making himself look like a large corporation.
Good luck[/QUOTE]
There may be a good chance this individual may not even be located in china. You should take this to the RCMP. Not sure they can help much with an Internet scam but you never know. If I was you I'd never rest until I found that person. I've tracked people down for much much less then that and got what I wanted. There has to be a way to find out where the website has originated from who made it ? Something.
Hi Maxydog,
I hate it when this happens, any help you require to try and sort this out I am up for.
Maybe email bombardment, a big warning on this forum, you name it I will sign it.
I am sure others here will do what they can.
Even with the companies that get a good rap on here, you can't help but worry when you send your hard earned cash over. So when this happens it puts the whole thing back 10 years for all, and gives ammunition to the anti foreign brigade. Not good.
Best of luck with it.
Geoff
I agree when you here these kind of things happening it really destroy the trust that buying product offshore and sending large amounts of cash to them only to be screwed over.
I personally had a great experience with my machine supplier and they have been great even with sorting teething issues support was there 7 days a week.
I contacted around 40 suppliers before i chose mine and after talking to 5-10 you can tell the dodgy ones to the legit ones
Unfortunantly there is little you can do except persist and contact as many governing bodies and make many claims. But i sadly Chinese government don't care and are happy to harbour and condone this behaviour as they have your money.
But i personally would contacting all the Chinese trading sites and disclosing on every internet forum that relates to cnc products and post your story including his full name, known alias company names his bank details(in case he uses the same for his alias) so at least it may help prevent more victims
Maybe a thread or sticky in this Chinese thread with bad suppliers list as prevention not a vigilante thread
Post your details in
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Hopefully it works out for you if i can help in anyway let me know
"Shanghai Ruidiao CNC Equipment Co., Ltd." is a Gold Member of "Made in China". Are they part of the Scam or did this guy just use their name? If a "Gold Member" can scam a customer and get away with it, it'll be better to avoid "Made In China.com" at all in the future.
Writing off the entire Chinese suppliers maybe a little harsh but should act as a warning to not become complacent
Gold Member is a paid membership and is obviously intended to deceive people into think it gives them some level of credibility.
Just like every chinese suppliers will show iso:9001 certification and will show the product with CE certification with is a international recognised mark of product meeting European safety standards although the machines will turn up with sub-standard without any from of earthing.
The do this again as speciousness and when there caught of they define the label CE as "Chinese Export"
Answer to a written question - China Export (CE) mark feeding off the reputation of the European Conformité européenne (CE) mark - P-5938/2007
Once again there is No transaction in this day and age be domestic or international that goes without risk. I personally have been taken for many thousands of dollars from trusted domestic businesses who take from your trust run up Large accounts all to well knowing that they are entering receivership and you will receive 2 cents in the dollar 10 years form now.
Doing your research is paramount in this type of transaction when i purchased my machine i had my salesperson take around 10 pictures a day during manufacture of the machine the components and also the finial testing of the machine requesting particular text and test pictures to ensure it was the realtime.
I picked up some discrepancies before it left there factory and payment finalised.
This link to the wix site shows NOTHING. What are we supposed to be looking at?
Originally Posted by maxydog
No, the CE sign is only a sign, that the manufacturer itself thinks, that his product is conform with all the relevant safety laws. The sign itself can be buyed in several shops for little money. And only things, they have electricity in it have a CE sign. But I have seen the label on Pencils, brushes, brooms, matchboxcars and so on.CE certification with is a international recognised mark of product meeting European safety standards
I was referring to the topic of CE on Cnc Router which i am fairly sure has electricity in them
Why should you buy from china when you have good product in your country such as cncrouterparts, shopbot, etc!
Maybe because he doesn't have the money to buy local machines and the chinese manufactured machines cost 1/4 of the local machines?
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